Re: [DNSOP] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-09: (with COMMENT)

Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Tue, 03 December 2019 18:28 UTC

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Hi Dave,

Just on this point:

> On 2. Dec 2019, at 23:42, Dave Lawrence <tale@dd.org>; wrote:
> 
>> 2) I find the Implementation Status section (8) actually quite
>> interesting for this document and maybe it should be considered to
>> keep it in the document for final publication.
> 
> I personally am in favor of this, not just for this document but for
> all RFCs.   RFC 6982 recommends that the section be removed, but I'd
> be happy to help evolve that recommendation.

RFC6982 recommends this because usually it's more important to have this information during the life-time of a draft (to understand the maturity of the protocol) but then it might quickly get out-dated after publication. However, we had also drafts were we retained the section for final publication because e.g. the whole draft was based on one specific implementation. I think that is also the case here and there is nothing in RFC6982 that permits keeping this information in the draft (if it seen as still useful in future).

Mirja