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Re: [DNSOP] Status of draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl> Tue, 20 March 2018 10:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Status of draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
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On 19-03-18 20:08, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19 March 2018 at 08:21, Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl 
> <mailto:matthijs@pletterpet.nl>> wrote:
> 
>     I and some others have been using the term 'Negative response' to
>     indicate that the response does not contain any records in the
>     Answer section. Current definition seems to imply that this is only
>     the case if the RCODE is NXDOMAIN, NOERROR, SERVFAIL or if there was
>     a timeout (unreachable). The definition I have been using includes
>     responses with other RCODEs too, for example FORMERR or REFUSED. 
> 
> 
>     I wonder if this is just me and my bubble or if others also a
>     slightly different meaning of 'Negative response' as it is defined
>     now. If there are others, is it worth spending a line or two about
>     this here?
> 
> 
> I would suggest that only NXDOMAIN and NOERROR+ANCOUNT=0 are negative 
> responses.   SERVFAIL, FORMERR, and REFUSED are error responses; you do 
> not know as a result of those responses whether the name/type tuple 
> queried about exists.

Fair enough, just note that RFC 2308 defines SERVFAIL as (Other) 
Negative Response.

Best regards,
   Matthijs


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