Re: [DNSOP] Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13: (with COMMENT)

Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 27 October 2021 15:13 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:12:59 -0700
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To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13: (with COMMENT)
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 1:13 PM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 01:09:00PM -0700, Erik Kline via Datatracker wrote:
> > Erik Kline has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13: Yes
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > [abstract vs. S1/S3, question]
> >
> > * The abstract says:
> >
> >    "...strongly
> >    encourages the operational practice of permitting DNS messages to be
> >    carried over TCP"
> >
> >   while section 1 says:
> >
> >    "...all DNS resolvers and recursive
> >    servers MUST support and service both TCP and UDP queries"
> >
> >   and section 3 also some MUST text.
> >
> >   Should the abstract be updated to say MUST rather than just
> >   "strongly encourages", or is there a subtly in here I'm missing?
>
> "require" might be better than "MUST", on the principle that if a given
> requirement is stated in more than one place, there is risk of inadvertent
> skew between what is actually stated; such skew can cause interoperability
> failure or security vulnerabilities if different implementations use the
> differing behaviors.
>
> -Ben
>

+1 sgtm