[dnsop] draft DNSOP minutes for IETF 61
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Thanks to Peter for the excellent minutes. Dave ---- ============================================================================= DNSOP WG, IETF 61, "International E", 2004-11-08, 1300-1400 ============================================================================= Chairs: Rob Austein Dave Meyer Scribe: Peter Koch ============================================================================= 1300 Administrivia Rob Austein points to the action item tracking system and encourages the wg to watch this. Please see https://rt.psg.com/Search/Listing.html?ValueOfStatus=open&ValueOfStatus=new&Stat+usOp=%3D&QueueOp=%3D&ValueOfQueue=42&RowsPerPage=50&NewSearch=1 Agenda is accepted without changes: walk through on current, expired and potentially new WG documents ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1307 draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-operational-practices-02.txt Olaf Kolkman Targets Informational, not BCP, since we are still lacking 'P' as in 'Practice'. Editor asks chairs to issue WGLC (== Working Group Last Call) ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1309 draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required-05.txt Author/Editor not present Several people express concerns regarding the normative language. Pekka Savola advocates for another editing round The sense of the room is, that the next version may be ready for WGLC ACTION: Daniel Senie: await and incorporate comments for next version ALL: read and comment ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1311 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-10.txt Pekka Savola gives a status report, draft is mainly addressing comments by Thomas Narten & IESG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1313 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-transport-guidelines-02.txt Published as RFC 3901 "DNS IPv6 Transport Operational Guidelines" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1313 draft-ietf-dnsop-key-rollover-requirements-01.txt Francis Dupont: expects another version, problem with early I-D deadline Olaf Kolkman: requirements are relatively straight forward, an I-D looks overkill; hard to make it more detailed than it is, but it's so minimal that at the same time it is difficult to make it useful Francis Dupont: suggest WGLC for next version Sam Weiler: there are requirements in I consider bad or inconsistent, this is not yet ready for publication Olaf Kolkman: how can we get more input? Rip Loomis: usually, if I think it's bad, would offer a competing draft; think it is needed, but not sure current structure is OK, no offense to the author Ted Lemon: reason for low feedback is there's low DNSSEC deployment ... ACTION: Editor: send new version to I-D archive All: read and send feedback ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1320 draft-ietf-dnsop-misbehavior-against-aaaa-02.txt [[Morishita Orange Yasuhiro]] passed wglc, rev 02 in response to IESG comments should be ready for publication presents related activity to solve problem http://v6fix.net Jaap Akkerhuis: David Mallone presented related work to the RIPE DNS WG which is WG action item Yasuhiro: we're already talking to each other ACTION: Chairs: pass to AD/IESG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1325 draft-ietf-dnsop-serverid-02.txt Suzanne Wolff no progress since last meeting will send reminder to wg mailing list DNSEXT will only take it up if req's are clear hope to be able to request WG Last Call soon think there's part of the community very interested, but would be more comfortable with more feedback ACTION: Suzanne Wolff: issue new version All: read and send feedback ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1327 draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-03.txt Matt Larson: we passed WG Last Call, I guess, but wouldn't hurt to Last Call it again ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC All: read and send feedback ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1328 draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-01.txt Akira Kato: no more feedback received since San Diego meeting Olaf Kolkman: there's an "easter egg" in there Paul Vixie mentioned in San Diego (found it, but don't disclose) Rob Austein: fear to have this conversation in Minneapolis again can we try WGLC? ACTION: Chairs: issue WGLC All: read and send feedback ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1330 draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-rollover-01.txt Olaf Kolkman: work has been taken over in DNSEXT There was no objection removing this draft off the DNSOP document queue ACTION: Chairs: remove document from WG's active documents list ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1331 draft-ietf-dnsop-ohta-shared-root-server-03.txt Author/Editor not present Suzanne: has been overtaken by events There was no objection removing this draft off the DNSOP document queue -- unless author brings it back ACTION: Chairs: remove document from WG's active documents list ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1333 draft-ietf-dnsop-dontpublish-unreachable-03.txt (expired since October 2002) Author/Editor not present George [[APNIC]]: hear gossip from other WGs, where they want [[do not want]] to use addresses under consideration in the draft Alain Durand: think we need to publish this It turns out that the author/current editor has no more time, so if the WG wants to proceed with the draft, it needs a new editor Johan Ihren: the document is about uniqueness vs ambiguity, not (un)reachability Dave Meyer: understand George that there are cross WG issues here? maybe can find author there? ACTION: Chairs: find and appoint new editor ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1337 draft-yasuhiro-dnsop-increasing-dns-server-01.txt Yasuhiro Orange Morishita Orange: We need some testing. Authors will update draft, after that will decide whether to ask WG for adoption. ACTION: Chairs: await note from author All: read and send feedback ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1338 draft-fujiwara-dnsop-bad-dns-auth-01.txt Kazunori Fujiwara Presentation available at [[please provide for URL]] [[alternative source may be http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0410/toyama.html]] Caching servers/resolvers suffer from authoritative servers, which cannot be reached via tcp/53 due to lack of service or restrictive port/packet filters Suggests EDNS0 (esp. packet size option) be supported on every authoritative server if zone tends to produce answers not fitting into 512 octet response packet. Also suggests modification to DNS resolving algorithm to mitigate otherwise insoluble truncation problem Author agrees to split draft into two separate I-Ds Mark Kosters: needs to be split, agreed Rip Loomis: the fact that DNS over TCP is mandatory needs to be made more widely known Peter Koch: extend documentation to opposite problem, auth servers suffering from bad path config and SYN flood There were no objections or concerns to adopt subsequent split I-D pair as WG items. ACTION: Chairs: await note from author Author: split and resubmit ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1354 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-configuration-04.txt David Kessens, AD: The draft is under IESG consideration, no agreement within IESG either, will look at it at the next IESG telechat ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1357 AOB Rip Loomis asks whether there is any interest in updating RFC 2541 (DNS Security Operational Considerations). The original author could act as reviewer, but does not have the resources to lead the update. Although several attendees remember to have read the RFC, there's no clear opinion. Attendees ask for time for review. ACTION: Olaf Kolkman: Review RFC 2541 and suggest modifications in the light of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-operational-practices ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14:00 end of session . dnsop resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop/index.html
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