Re: [DNSOP] term-bis and was Re: [Ext] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Thu, 16 March 2017 21:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] term-bis and was Re: [Ext] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps
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On 16 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Edward Lewis wrote:

> On 3/16/17, 21:26, "DNSOP on behalf of Paul Hoffman" 
> <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
>
>> Please do note that we already have such a discussion (that will go 
>> for
>> IETF consensus) active in draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis. We've 
>> been
>> asking for feedback on this topic already, and even you gave us some.
>> :-)
>
> I'm not sure if the "you" is directed at me, I did comment, so 
> perhaps.

No, it was directed to Ralph. The text that I quoted (that you cut out 
here) was from him.

> There's a certain catch-22 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilemma] in 
> play.  Yes, the DNS needs a definition for Domain Names as the term is 
> used across the documents on the DNS protocol and system.  But there's 
> never been work to define Domain Names beyond the DNS protocol.  The 
> dilemma is that for dns-terminology-bis, not having Domain Name 
> defined would be a serious omission, but the general, "beyond the DNS" 
> definition has never been formalized and documented.

Can you say more why you think that is a dilemma? It seems that 
draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis could certainly be the first place 
where it is formalized and documented.

--Paul Hoffman