Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increase-02
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increase-02
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> From: Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> > Your calculations on the amplification are good illustration, but assume that the resolvers use > the parental provided NS set, not the child side provided NS set. > In the case of google.co.jp. > JP side NS has TTL of 1 day but google.co.jp side has is 96 hours (4 days) > Unbound resolver has by default of MaxTTL 1 day thus it does not matter in the case of google.co.jp > which NS set is stored, but other resolvers do different things. Thanks. Some domain names use shorter NS TTL values. > In short I think the simple conclusion is > "signed domain will see increased DS traffic for unsigned child domains" Agree. I would like to know whether the increase of DS queries are observed commonly or not. (with small NCACHE TTL value) -- Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS <fujiwara@jprs.co.jp>
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… Tony Finch
- [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increase-02 fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… fujiwara
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-ds-query-increas… Frederico A C Neves