Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-iana-cons-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Martin Duke <[e-mail]>]

Thank you for clarifying. If 4033-4035 fully replaced 3658, then one of
them should have picked up the specification of the registry that 3658
established. Maybe this is something that could be addressed in this
document, or perhaps somewhere else; I'd like to have the discussion.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 8:49 AM Paul Hoffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Martin Duke via Datatracker <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> >
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> > DISCUSS:
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> >
> > Holding this point because we should discuss it; this might be a problem
> to be
> > solved by a different document, in which case I'll lift it.
> >
> > Section 8 of RFC8126 says that bis documents should update the reference
> in
> > IANA registries to replace obsolete documents with not-obsolete ones. It
> > appears that 3658 didn't have a "bis" document but clearly was replaced
> by
> > three others.
>
> It was obsoleted by RFCs 4033, 4034, and 4035. Those are not "bis"
> documents, they are full replacements.
>
> > I don't really understand how they fully obsolete 3658 if there
> > are still registries hanging out there.
>
> Please define "hanging out there". :-) The registry of interest is at <
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/ds-rr-types.xhtml#ds-rr-types-1>.
> The "Reference" section in that registry lists
> "[RFC3658][RFC4034][RFC4035]".
>
> Is your objection that the registry still lists RFC 3658? If so, this
> seems an IANA issue, not an issue with this draft.
>
> > Regardless, perhaps this draft is an
> > opportunity to update the reference to these registries?
>
> The draft refers to the correct registry.
>
> > Or is 3658 not
> > "really" obsolete?
>
> It is really obsolete, and has been for well over a decade.
>
> Is this explanation complete enough for you to lift your DISCUSS ballot?
>
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> > COMMENT:
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> >
> > Nit: Please expand DS and NSEC3 on first use.
> >
>
> Good catch; I will add these to the -05 draft.
>
> --Paul Hoffman