Re: [Doh] special meta QTYPEs
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Fri, 08 June 2018 13:51 UTC
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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:51:39 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Doh] special meta QTYPEs
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On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 3:38 PM Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote: > I was speaking in general terms, of course :-) An AXFR client has to be > prepared to handle multiple messages in a response, regardless of the size > of the zone, so a DoH proxy that tries to support AXFR cannot avoid > learning how to cope with multi-message answers from its upstream DNS > server. And it isn't always possible to de-fragment an AXFR response: e.g. > it will break any TSIG authentication. That's interesting. Are you saying that a multi-message answer that is TSIG authenticated cannot be carried in DOH? I think that's what this means. Would it require the use of something like multipart/related to faithfully carry the answer in that case?
- [Doh] special meta QTYPEs Tony Finch
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- Re: [Doh] special meta QTYPEs Dave Lawrence
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- Re: [Doh] special meta QTYPEs Tony Finch