Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A document about reputation data meta-issues)
Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Wed, 26 October 2011 10:34 UTC
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From: Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:34:11 +0200
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Subject: Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A document about reputation data meta-issues)
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On 26 October 2011 11:44, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> Pointer, please. [...] > That would be the DNSBL RFC evaluation record. <URL:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl/history/>, apparently. There's a bunch of [DISCUSS] saying that this should be PS and DNSOPS instead of "research", because it's no research. I don't see that the IETF in 2008 did not like this peculiar 127.0.0.2/8 usage. > RFC821 defined MAIL FROM. I'm talking about the "MAILFROM identity" in your draft. Of course that is based on SMTP MAIL FROM, 821/2821/5321/5321bis. But as an "identity" for reputation it is defined in 4408/4408bis. The SMTP RFCs are not about identities, they don't tell you what to do with an "empty" MAIL FROM if you want to attach some kind of reputation to it. RFC 4408 explains this trick. If some scheme has no use for empty MAIL FROMs it is fine; otherwise it should follow the definition in RFC 4408. Or use another name, "MAILFROM" and "PRA" are already taken. -Frank
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity John Levine
- [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A documen… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [domainrep] RFC 5782, was I-D.*-reputation-*.… John Levine
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… SM
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… John Levine
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… John R. Levine
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
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- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… SM
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy
- [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-reputa… Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Douglas Otis
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Nathaniel Borenstein
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- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Frank Ellermann
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- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Chris Lewis
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Douglas Otis
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Chris Lewis
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] DKIM 101 for me (was Re: I-D.*-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
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- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity (w… Frank Ellermann
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- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Chris Lewis
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity David F. Skoll
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Dave CROCKER
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [domainrep] Appropriate choice of identity Douglas Otis
- Re: [domainrep] I-D.*-reputation-*.01 (was: A doc… Murray S. Kucherawy