Re: [Dots] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00.txt

H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com> Tue, 23 July 2019 11:53 UTC

Return-Path: <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D109120130 for <dots@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.998
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Rb-GXz39adv for <dots@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:53:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-lf1-x133.google.com (mail-lf1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD96D120125 for <dots@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-lf1-x133.google.com with SMTP id c19so29125300lfm.10 for <dots@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gk1kKFxMKxs5cZzpRKBA3kBzseit2kQavklg0pbjMw0=; b=bWBf8OWUyQdntUXkDzw9xAR09cJV6w+RskK4X54w9Fj6NLvWU1Qwsr/Wv2eXZrRZpE NtBiLNxCor2RyyizZo6RZ4nntRAIoKm9BL8B72NvVqekOSvBXfEUquaNd7cRgfyFvKnv +rlr9DbGcrpGmKTnu5FWrsRmVx/bHWT3hMLaalGhPYShohEVPrdgUeffbuqS/EXWq8vn /yasZQDMPCjG0wOjviNY32vHxkYBAC01nmz8PChj8vt1VRy9CfeSkXYv//9/sGQ9mfdM wVaDEleAPbsFJNfT5ZqirMukq6teBOflXGer+0hZOu+3xk9201WPGrXgj8YA4iB846P9 bnJQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gk1kKFxMKxs5cZzpRKBA3kBzseit2kQavklg0pbjMw0=; b=sPndQq85i1MwVro0fEKnotjVLpMuY43Tl841bhB9f6kUawuvfE/i6qSln+R00vMjSb LgE8I4VFWhvP+f7j6CTOkp+PdMK2A4Qo1OR59lYK09jM9I5+8pAiOEz9FYOWIo5tpn4d Nxz0+pI3WPvhX+XbuE6eTsr4syuO3ZfSEgWQOAHcZAob4WagekBxdxH8bZhmgzIyTptb ujQVSr//tPw3ZqZzPNc38cwhCbz68r1D2AeQG9kmdr1curNAxXdatwOB2NLgxuGdcovD f2EgGWS98qssRc446wB7JAbEvggnNxYnDHhhcTPNIvkuD6ks6VQgjbJCmCpvquT6Tww8 oPeg==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUuu76Xt4MTS9ICx74PfzDiMqfFDdokLfady0IbudOLQbxAeQDm uoVm2D3HyqK8zJdherKIW89tseUDQWerqo4nch4=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwMSDOQaEI8gqPPiX25qEIL9f5pKDDjEdvBxLspnWDlU/sIhjSXcAdiDQFIDbcLB9LRiBbJxozkmOUj+inaBXo=
X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5097:: with SMTP id f23mr35549826lfm.130.1563882778911; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:52:58 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <156233245922.21720.2303446065970922340.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <CAFpG3gcgpJRyLSoLkOMuUWY8pZrBPDCCz6-sc8A=1KW3GMpm+g@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAFpG3gcgpJRyLSoLkOMuUWY8pZrBPDCCz6-sc8A=1KW3GMpm+g@mail.gmail.com>
From: H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:57:41 -0400
Message-ID: <CAA8pjUPY+GDGxNhqDCWsh-6aGnYoOL+A5pGaE=2BaE5j8rY41g@mail.gmail.com>
To: tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>
Cc: dots@ietf.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/_lOPyDvKl7hQzqe1zcy1Dw9Dazw>
Subject: Re: [Dots] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00.txt
X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." <dots.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dots>, <mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dots/>
List-Post: <mailto:dots@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots>, <mailto:dots-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:53:05 -0000

Hi Tiru,

I read the draft and I also support this draft.
Sending detail information about attack traffic helps my dms offload
scenario because the orchestrator can decide what to do based on the
detail information.

IMO, "top talker" attribute defined in my previous draft is also
feasible to send and effective to mitigate attack correctly.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-h-dots-mitigation-offload-expansion/
What do you think about including the top talker attribute to the telemetry?

Thanks,
Yuhei

2019年7月5日(金) 9:21 tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00 aims to enrich DOTS protocols with various telemetry attributes allowing optimal DDoS attack mitigation. This document specifies the normal traffic baseline and attack traffic telemetry attributes a DOTS client can convey to its DOTS server in the mitigation request, the mitigation status telemetry attributes a DOTS server can communicate to a DOTS client, and the mitigation efficacy telemetry attributes a DOTS client can communicate to a DOTS server.  The telemetry attributes can assist the mitigator to choose the DDoS mitigation techniques and perform optimal DDoS attack mitigation.
>
> Comments, suggestions, and questions are more than welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> -Tiru
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 18:44
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00.txt
> To: Tirumaleswar Reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>, Ehud Doron <ehudd@radware.com>, Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Tirumaleswar Reddy and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-reddy-dots-telemetry
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Telemetry
> Document date:  2019-07-05
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          13
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-reddy-dots-telemetry/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-reddy-dots-telemetry
>
>
> Abstract:
>    This document aims to enrich DOTS signal channel protocol with
>    various telemetry attributes allowing optimal DDoS attack mitigation.
>    This document specifies the normal traffic baseline and attack
>    traffic telemetry attributes a DOTS client can convey to its DOTS
>    server in the mitigation request, the mitigation status telemetry
>    attributes a DOTS server can communicate to a DOTS client, and the
>    mitigation efficacy telemetry attributes a DOTS client can
>    communicate to a DOTS server.  The telemetry attributes can assist
>    the mitigator to choose the DDoS mitigation techniques and perform
>    optimal DDoS attack mitigation.
>
>
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dots mailing list
> Dots@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots



-- 
----------------------------------
Yuuhei HAYASHI
08065300884
yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com
iehuuy_0220@docomo.ne.jp
----------------------------------