Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption

Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br> Sun, 30 July 2017 17:35 UTC

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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:35:06 +0000
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Subject: Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption
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Hi Will.
Do you have plans for the DTN Management Requirements I-D? What do you
think of rebooting it on the NMRG?
Cheers.

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Prof. Dr. Jéferson Campos Nobre
Escola Politécnica
Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos
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Em sex, 28 de jul de 2017 às 21:19, William Ivancic <
ivancic@syzygyengineering.com> escreveu:

> I am still lurking.
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
>
> *From: *dtn <dtn-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jéferson Campos Nobre <
> jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>
> *Date: *Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM
> *To: *"Birrane, Edward J." <Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu>, "dtn@ietf.org" <
> dtn@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [dtn] AMA Adoption
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>
>
> Hi Ed.
>
> I support the WG adoption of the AMA I-D.
>
> Besides that, I would like to propose the reboot of the DTN management
> requirements draft on the NMRG, which can help to "draw the distinction of
> engineering and research work" as you mentioned.
>
> BTW, the author of the DTN management requirements draft, William D.
> Ivancic, is still a DTN contributor?
>
> Best.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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> Prof. Dr. Jéferson Campos Nobre
>
> Escola Politécnica
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> Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos
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> http://professor.unisinos.br/jcnobre
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> Em qui, 27 de jul de 2017 às 12:55, Birrane, Edward J. <
> Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu> escreveu:
>
> DTNWG,
>
>
>
>   The working group has a milestone for "Network Management Requirements"
> for February 2017. IIRC from the discussions when these milestones were
> being formed, this was to bound the problem space of network management
> and, perhaps, draw a distinction between engineering work and research work.
>
>
>
>   The Asynchronous Management Architecture (AMA)  (
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-birrane-dtn-ama-05​) is an attempt to
> capture how to perform network management in a challenged environment
> (scaling from low-latency automation to high-latency autonomy).  The
> document has been presented at several working group meetings without
> any significant changes.
>
>
>
>   I propose that the AMA is close to satisfying the charter need for
> network management requirements and that any additional changes should be
> handled in the context of the working group.
>
>
>
>   Can we use this thread to discuss WG adoption of AMA?
>
>
>
> -Ed
>
> ​
>
> ---
> Edward J. Birrane, III, Ph.D.
> Embedded Applications Group Supervisor
> Space Exploration Sector
> Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory
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