[E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-considerations along
Carlos Pignataro <cpignata@gmail.com> Sun, 28 September 2025 15:56 UTC
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Subject: [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-considerations along
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Suresh, > On Sep 27, 2025, at 10:53 PM, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> • IAB Report to the Community for IETF 120 (2024-07-19) >> NOTHING. >> >> • IAB Report to the Community for IETF 121 (2024-11-01) >> NOTHING. >> >> • IAB Report to the Community for IETF 122 (2025-03-13) >> NOTHING. >> >> • IAB Report to the Community for IETF 123 (2025-07-18) >> >> NOTHING. >> > > The program updates were presented at the iabopen meetings > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/session/iabopen > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/session/iabopen > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/122/session/iabopen > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/123/session/iabopen Thank you! — these are well hidden, even for those (somewhat) fluent in IETF handshakes and insider language. I am still baffled there has been nothing for the “IAB (to) Report to the Community" for over a year! That said, for triannual updates on an important IAB Program, there are no eimpact-specific slide-decks — only fragments of a single slide in the “Chair Slides” deck, with bullets of actions more than outcomes or a plan of record. I had higher expectations. As always, I will read the rest of your email with openness and the time it deserves, and respond as needed; hopefully it adds some real clarity. In the meantime, as Alex was seeking for "someone to clarify the role of the IAB program”, and given this thread, my summary: As a participant (if that is the right term for a Program, or as a “Led" since there are Leads), I found the initial eimpact mailing list (pre-Program) very useful. But building (what seems to be) a makeshift framework — alternating between pretending it functions like a WG when convenient and denying it when not, while preempting work that should have happened earlier in the IETF — has been a major disservice and obstacle to progress. Best, Carlos.
- [E-impact] Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-cons… Mark Nottingham
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Mark Nottingham
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Mark Nottingham
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Alexander Clemm
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Mark Nottingham
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Jari Arkko
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Suresh Krishnan
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Tony Li
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Jari Arkko
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Carlos Pignataro
- [E-impact] Re: Moving draft-various-eimpact-arch-… Tony Li