Re: [E-impact] IETF 118 - Sustainability Insights side meeting notes

["Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi,
Thanks to those of you who got back to me on this thread.

With respect to the follow-up topics and the proposed side-meeting, as noted in my previous email, we are coordinating with Jari and Suresh to integrate these subjects into the interim session that they recently announced via the e-impact alias.

Marisol P.


From: E-impact <[e-mail]> on behalf of Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero) <mpalmero=[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, 13 December 2023 at 18:19
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Subject: [E-impact] IETF 118 - Sustainability Insights side meeting notes

Note: Reaching now the e-impact mailer, as first attempt didn’t work, because of the long cc: list, mainly the attendees that I recall on top of my mind. The meeting was not recorded





Hello,

With a bit of delay….

>From the “Sustainability Insights” side meeting that took place during IETF118 , I wanted to share the notes and follow up.





Sustainability Side Meeting - Monday, Nov 6th

Summary




15 ppl in the room + 2 remote

Really good participation and engagement

Marisol Palmero shared view (based on slides)

Esther Roure shared TSCO use case: new device replacement should take into consideration the cost (CO2e) associated with manufacturing

Emile Stephan shared Velodrome use case: ability to allocate power in the switch based on the POE load.

@all good discussions overall.




Comments and outcomes from the group:

•         good perception to address circularity on the IETF forum

•         yes, to address use cases

•         good perception and good interest from Luis Contreras and Oscar Gonzalez on the TSCO Use Case

•         Align power methodology with the other initiatives

•         Feedback to POWEFF draft, POWEFF: add section on how metrics are going to be used and how that will impact the outcome, including “strong” examples.

•         general feeling all new metrics are related work for research




Ben Roberts:

new generation equipment vs old gen equipment; (not so much vendor vs vendor)

Alex Clemm:

Compliance should come from independent entity

Ali Rezaki:

good insight on regulations, and liason with other organizations

Emile Stephan

AI: ok to follow up on other remote side meeting. Marisol to set it up.

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I will schedule a follow up meeting: Tuesday, 23 January 2024 from 16:00 to 17:00



Please if you are planning to attend, feel free to share a topic you would like to discuss, if required we can even add more time.



Initial agenda points:

Update and follow-up on the hackathon “Sustainability Insights” Table.

Update on the actual drafts that touch on Sustainability:
POWEFF draft latest – with focus on the controller. Ref draft-opsawg-poweff<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-opsawg-poweff/>
Sustainability Insights draft, request for comments. Ref draft-almprs-sustainability-insights<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-almprs-sustainability-insights/>
API to query a network regarding its Energy Traffic Ratio for a given path Ref. draft-petra-path-energy-api<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-petra-path-energy-api/>
Others TBC

Many thanks
Marisol Palmero