AW: [ECRIT] wg Status Update - as of 9/25/07

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Hi Roger, 
 
thanks a lot for the detailed status update. A minor issue on the
emergency call marking. I believe we agreed on the approach described in
this mail:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/current/msg20511.html
Brian indicated that the resolution can also be found in the latest
phone BCP draft version. 

A related topic that is still under discussion is the question on how to
prevent fraud in the context of location hiding. 

Ciao
Hannes

________________________________

	Von: ext Roger Marshall [mailto:RMarshall@telecomsys.com] 
	Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. September 2007 05:34
	An: ECRIT; Hannes Tschofenig; Marc Linsner
	Betreff: [ECRIT] wg Status Update - as of 9/25/07
	
	


	ECRIT WG Status Update - Sept 2007 
	================================== 


	Upcoming IETF Meeting 
	===================== 

	The next ECRIT (IETF70) meeting is scheduled for Dec 2-7,
Vancouver B.C. See: 
	http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/70-IETF.html
<http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/70-IETF.html>  


	Other information: 

	There is a new Web-based tool that can be used now to submit a
new draft, see: 
	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04384.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04384.html>  

	The meeting minutes from the last IETF69 are here: 
	http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/minutes/ecrit.txt
<http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/minutes/ecrit.txt>  
	In addition, there is some progress on some of the wg related
documents. 

	Prior status reports are posted to the ECRIT WG status site.
See:
http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/EcritStatusUp
date
<http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/twiki/bin/view/EmergencyServices/EcritStatusU
pdate> 


	Document Status 
	=============== 

	In the RFC Editor's Queue 
	========================= 

	Requirements for Emergency Context Resolution with Internet
Technologies 
	
------------------------------------------------------------------------

	Draft is moving through the "RFC Ed Queue" - seems close to
being published: 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-requirements-13.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-requirements-13.tx
t>  


	A Uniform Resource Name (URN) for Services 
	------------------------------------------ 
	Draft has moved to the "RFC Ed Queue" as of 8/21/07: 
	
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/draft/service/draft-ietf-ecrit-service-ur
n-07.txt
<http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/draft/service/draft-ietf-ecrit-service-u
rn-07.txt>  


	Security Threats and Requirements for Emergency Call Marking and
Mapping 
	
------------------------------------------------------------------------

	The new (-05) Draft version has moved to the "RFC Ed Queue" as
of 9/12/07. 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-security-threats-05
.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-security-threats-0
5.txt>  


	PROTO Documents 
	=============== 

	The document shepherding process is described in: 
	
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-07.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-07.tx
t>  


	LoST: A Location-to-Service Translation Protocol 
	------------------------------------------------ 
	PROTO writeup has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG
to complete the work. 
	http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-06.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-06.txt>  


	Location-to-URL Mapping Architecture and Framework 
	-------------------------------------------------- 
	PROTO WRITEUP has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG
to complete work. 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-mapping-arch-02.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-mapping-arch-02.tx
t>  


	A Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) based
Location-to-Service
	Translation Protocol (LoST) Discovery Procedure 
	
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
	PROTO WRITEUP has been sent to the Area Directors and the IESG
to complete work. 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-dhc-lost-discovery-
02.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-dhc-lost-discovery
-02.txt>  


	Other WG Drafts 
	=============== 

	The (two) remaining ECRIT WG Drafts, below, have been updated. 

	Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia 
	--------------------------------------------------------- 
	New Draft version published as of 9/19/07.  Needs additional WG
review. 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-03.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-03.txt>



	Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of
Emergency Calling 
	
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------- 
	New Draft version published as of 9/19/07.  Needs additional WG
review. 
	
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-02.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-02.txt>  



	Individual Drafts 
	================= 

	Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements 
	--------------------------------------------------- 
	An updated draft has been produced, see: 
	
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-location-hiding-r
equirements-01.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-location-hiding-
requirements-01.txt>  

	Last action on this was: "Initiate discussion after the main WG
items have been progressed." 

	Action: ECRIT chairs to determine level of effort, since other
items now progressed. 


	Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing
with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices 
	
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------- 
	Initial draft version has been submitted. 
	
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated-a
ccess-00.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated-
access-00.txt>  

	There is a IEEE liaison msg. which references the above draft,
see: 
	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04361.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04361.html>  


	Emergency Call Marking 
	---------------------- 
	From last report, it was stated: 
	"The initially assumed solution, 
	
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-01.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-01.txt>
, 
	was not accepted at the IETF meeting." 

	Some discussion has taken place entitled "UA Loose Routing",
see: 
	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04308.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04308.html>  

	And "call marking", see: 
	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04310.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04310.html>  
	Which Richard reintroduced, and which there appears to be no
common resolution for yet, see Brian's response on probable action by
most proxies, see:

	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04319.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04319.html>  


	Proxy Authentication of the Emergency Status of SIP Calls 
	--------------------------------------------------------- 
	From last report, it was stated, 
	"A lot of the discussions in the last few weeks focused on 
	http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-barnes-ecrit-auth-00.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-barnes-ecrit-auth-00.txt>  
	Action Item: Summary needs to be compiled." 

	Action: Need to determine next steps. 


	Overview of the IETF Emergency Services Architecture 
	---------------------------------------------------- 
	Restated from the last report: 
	"The following document gives an overview of the emergency
services 
	architecture: 
	
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-tschofenig-ecrit-architecture-overv
iew-00.txt
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-tschofenig-ecrit-architecture-over
view-00.txt>  

	It is meant to be read by members from other SDOs and
regulators." 


	DSL Forum Documents 
	------------------- 

	The following referenced document were made available from the
DSL Forum.  An initial review was made by Hannes Tschofenig, see:

	
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04320.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg04320.html>  

	Additional comments have been logged to the list, see: 
	http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/mail3.html
<http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/mail3.html>  


	Alignment between IETF and 3GPP Emergency Services Architecture 
	--------------------------------------------------------------- 
	From the last report, 
	"[Hannes]... has the action item to schedule a conference 
	call within the IETF ECRIT WG and subsequently between IETF
ECRIT 
	and the 3GPP to discuss a possible alignment." 


	3rd SDO Emergency Services Workshop 
	----------------------------------- 

	The next workshop (ESW03-07) is scheduled for a 3 day meeting
(October 30st - 
	November 1st) in Brussels/Belgium (3 day mtg.). 

	Meeting information can be found here: 
	http://www.emergency-services-coordination.info/2007Nov/
<http://www.emergency-services-coordination.info/2007Nov/>  

	A first version of the agenda is also available: 
	
https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/es-coordination/2007-August/0000
50.html
<https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/es-coordination/2007-August/000
050.html>  

	Tuesday, October 30:
	--------
	
	Tutorials about IETF, 3GPP and NENA architectures
	
	u2010 meeting the standards
	
	Wednesday, October 31:
	----------
	
	Policy Panel
	
	Status Updates
	        *  IETF (GEOPRIV, ECRIT, SIP)
	        * DSL Forum
	        * IEEE
	        * ATIS-ESIF
	        * NENA
	        * ETSI EMTEL
	        * 3GPP
	        * 3GPP2
	        * ETSI TISPAN
	        * FCC
	        * Open Mobile Alliance (OMA)
	        * TIA
	        * US Department of Transportation
	        * OCG
	        * EU Commission
	        * Wimax Forum
	        * WiFi Forum/Alliance
	        * APCO Project 41
	        * COMCAST
	        * NIST
	
	Thursday, November 1:
	---------
	
	Status Updates (con't)
	
	Authority-to-Citizen Communication
	        Requirements
	        What's available now 




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