Re: [Ecrit] New Version Notification for draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt
Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Thu, 07 September 2023 19:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] New Version Notification for draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt
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I don’t have any further review comments, but it needs A LOT more work to progress. I’ve discussed issues with Sri off line and committed to review and assist with making it work from the emergency call side if it progresses, I personally don’t know how useful the idea is. I can’t get my head around how the pieces would come together. The document and the authors seem to waffle on exactly who is providing the SIP call interface. If it’s a 3rd party IMS network authorized by a regulator to provide this service (under some unknown compensation scheme), which seems to be at least part of the idea, then the client is a 3GPP compatible device, and it needs an eSIM or something like it so it can roam to this emergency IMS network. I think in fact it would require code changes in the device to make that really only work if you tried to place an emergency call, but maybe not. While I kind of see how that might work, I fail to see a real deployment path. If some other entity provides the SIP proxy server then there is a whole lot of unspecified mechanism but maybe that is more deployable. However, if it progresses, ecrit would be the place to do it for sure, and I think it’s within our charter. If not quite, I’m sure some very small change could accomodate it. Brian > On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:29 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> wrote: > > ECRIT WG, > > There's been no further feedback on this document. There was quite a bit that got it from -00 to -01, but nothing since. So I have two questions: > > (1) Are there any further review comments on the document irrespective of its status; and > > (2) Is this work ECRIT sees as being within its charter, or near enough that we should consider a charter adjustment to accommodate it? If not, are there any suggestions about where and how this should be processed? > > -MSK, ART AD > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:37 PM Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgundave=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >> Appreciate any other feedback on this document. >> >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt >> >> Regards >> Sri >> >> >> >> On 7/10/23, 7:55 AM, "Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)" <sgundave@cisco.com <mailto:sgundave@cisco.com> <mailto:sgundave@cisco.com <mailto:sgundave@cisco.com>>> wrote: >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> We have revised the draft based on all the feedback received from Brian, Dale, Roland, Christer and others. I still have to change the filename to make it not specific to one regulatory domain, but its reflected in the text. I will request the IETF secretary to change the filename. Please review and provide any feedback. Appreciated! >> >> >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> Sri >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/10/23, 7:01 AM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>>>" <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Sri Gundavelli and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Name: draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi >> Revision: 01 >> Title: Emergency Communication Services over Wi-Fi Access Networks >> Document date: 2023-07-10 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 21 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01.txt&gt;>> >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi/&gt;>> >> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi&gt;>> >> Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01 <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-gundavelli-dispatch-e911-wifi-01&gt;>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Abstract: >> This document introduces an approach to enable emergency services >> over Wi-Fi access networks. These services encompass emergency >> services such as 911 in North America, 112 in the European Union, and >> equivalent emergency services in other regulatory domains. The >> proposed approach aims to provide a comprehensive solution for >> supporting emergency communication across different regions and >> regulatory frameworks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Leveraging the legal framework and infrastructure of the OpenRoaming >> federation, this proposal aims to extend emergency calling >> capabilities to the vast number of OpenRoaming Wi-Fi hotspots that >> have already been deployed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The approach addresses critical challenges related to emergency >> calling, including discovery and authentication procedures for >> accessing networks that support emergency services, emergency access >> credentials, the configuration of emergency voice services, accurate >> location determination of the emergency caller, and call spofing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> By providing a comprehensive solution, this proposal ensures that >> emergency communication services can be seamlessly and effectively >> supported within the IEEE 802.11-based Wi-Fi ecosystem leveraging >> Passpoint Profiles. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org <mailto:Ecrit@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
- [Ecrit] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- [Ecrit] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [Ecrit] FW: New Version Notification for draf… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Ecrit] New Version Notification for draft-gu… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] New Version Notification for draft-gu… Roger Marshall