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Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #91: Discussion of partial failure on delivery is in the wrong section that talks about Trace Header Fields (rfc5321bis)

Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Tue, 19 March 2024 05:51 UTC

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:51:05 +0000
From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
To: emailcore@ietf.org, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #91: Discussion of partial failure on delivery is in the wrong section that talks about Trace Header Fields (rfc5321bis)
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I think there is general agreement that the text is misplaced and Section 3.3 seems like a good place for this text.

John, can you please implement this change in the next revision.

Thank you,
Alexey

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, at 7:27 PM, Pete Resnick wrote:
> I agree with Ken that 3.3 is probably the right place.
> 
> pr
> 
> On 20 Feb 2024, at 7:15, Ken Murchison wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/16/24 11:57 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 4.4. Trace Information
>>> 
>>> 4.4.3. Return-path, Non-SMTP Systems, and Gateways
>>> 
>>> The last paragraph of this section says:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     The server must give special treatment to cases in which processing
>>>     following the end of mail data indication is only partially
>>>     successful. This could happen if, after accepting several recipients
>>>     and the mail data, the SMTP server finds that the mail data could be
>>>     successfully delivered to some, but not all, of the recipients. In
>>>     such cases, the response to the DATA command MUST be an OK reply.
>>>     However, the SMTP server MUST compose and send an "undeliverable
>>>     mail" notification message to the originator of the message.
>>> 
>>> I believe the paragraph is useful and doesn't need to change. However, this text has nothing to do with Trace header fields or their processing by gateways, this text is more generic. I think the above paragraph should be moved somewhere under Section 3.6 ("Relaying and Mail Routing") or alternatively move it into Section 4.1.1.4. ("DATA (DATA)")?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I agree with Alexey that this paragraph seems to be misplaced.  I think a case could also be made for including this in the "DATA" portion of Section 3.3.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kenneth Murchison
>> Senior Software Developer
>> Fastmail US LLC
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