Re: [Emu] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-12: (with COMMENT)

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Thu, 16 February 2023 15:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Emu] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-12: (with COMMENT)
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On Feb 16, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> wrote:
> The outer identity SHOULD use an anonymous NAI realm, which allows for
> both user privacy, and for the EAP session to be routed in an AAA
> framework as described in [RFC7542] Section 3.  Where NAI realms are
> not used, packets will not be routable outside of the local
> organization.
> 
> Is there any legitimate reason for an implementer to decide to deviate from the SHOULD and still expect to interoperate?  The text you're suggesting sounds a lot like a MUST to me.

  It's not an implementation issue.  Anyone can type anything into the "username" field of the Microsoft Windows popup.  No EAP client enforces that the name must be a domain.

  Implementations are required to support any values in that name field.  This is a business reality.  This specification can only make recommendations.

> I think this point should be made clear, i.e., that this is only a SHOULD because of backward compatibility with previous documents.  In fact, I suggest using "MUST, unless ..."
> 
> Private environments, I would imagine, are always free to interoperate or not, so I'm not too worried about the (b) case.

  Implementations have to support both use-cases.  If we make this a MUST, then implementors may see it as a requirement of the implementation, and forbid practices which are currently in wide-spread use.

  Alan DeKok.