Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues
"Jay Daley" <jay@nominet.org.uk> Fri, 04 July 2008 10:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues
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Brian > Nah, I don't think you will preload everything, just cache what you use the > most. Download whatever else you need on demand. Whether you preload or cache and download on demand, is still the same thing. Your solution means any device that will do ENUM lookups needs access to a great big database. > > The data I'm proposing gives you validation of number length. It doesn't > tell you that you have a working number. Exactly!! Which is why we need send-n. Jay _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
- [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Eleanor McHugh
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Peter Koch
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Pete Cordell
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Pete Cordell
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Jay Daley
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Edward Lewis
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Peter Koch
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Lawrence Conroy
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Brian Rosen
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Richard Shockey
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Rosbotham, Paul
- Re: [Enum] Send-n, rat holes and real issues Duane