RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] a suggestion re: using flags todistinguish post-ENUM signaling f lows
"Pfautz, Penn L, NEO" <ppfautz@att.com> Mon, 06 February 2006 15:50 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] a suggestion re: using flags todistinguish post-ENUM signaling f lows
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From: "Pfautz, Penn L, NEO" <ppfautz@att.com>
To: henry@pulver.com, Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski@verisign.com>, lconroy <lconroy@insensate.co.uk>, "Stafford, Matthew" <matthew.stafford@cingular.com>, Otmar Lendl <lendl@nic.at>
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Right now, however, phone numbers are a little like democracy - "the worst system imaginable except for all others" P2P folks don't seem serious about interoperability (look at IM) and only TNs provide reachability from the PSTN. Penn (sorry, Henry, couldn't resist) -----Original Message----- From: speermint-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:speermint-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henry Sinnreich Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:33 AM To: 'Tony Rutkowski'; 'lconroy'; 'Stafford, Matthew'; 'Otmar Lendl' Cc: enum@ietf.org; speermint@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] a suggestion re: using flags todistinguish post-ENUM signaling f lows The information provided by Tony Rutkowski are a welcome reminder that phone numbers are not only a crippled addressing system but a huge trap with legacy telecom regulatory issues and big legal staffing costs. Let's use the Internet and the DNS for what they were designed: URIs The other alternative are the name spaces in P2P systems. Sincere apology to all my friends working on ENUM: Keep it within strict bounds, simple and use with caution. Thanks, Henry -----Original Message----- From: speermint-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:speermint-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rutkowski Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:42 AM To: lconroy; Stafford, Matthew; Otmar Lendl Cc: enum@ietf.org; speermint@ietf.org Subject: [Speermint] Re: [Enum] a suggestion re: using flags to distinguish post-ENUM signaling f lows Hi Lawrence, >The first is the process issue - what group (if any) coordinates >between the different DDDS applications and their uses; this topic ... >3761bis. It seems that your proposal is purely for Carrier/ Infrastructure/ >Private ENUM; in this case, changing 3761 has unintended consequences >for Public/User ENUM applications. These are great understatements. The use of E.164 identifiers, internationally and domestically, is subject to more statutory, regulatory, national security, and industry practice requirements than any identifier space in existence - not to mention well established institutional jurisdiction. The following list is a current tabulation of E.164 resolver-directory capability requirements, parsed into three categories, currently in play in various industry NGN forums. The recently enacted EC Data Retention Directive, and the U.S. Prevent Cyberstalking law, add further complexity to the mix. ;-) best, --tony >basic resolver capability > >supplementary capability > Number Portability > Priority Access > Roaming > Quality of Service > Directory Assistance > CallerID > Disability Assistance > Language preference > Personal emergency (E112/911) > Public emergency alerts > Law enforcement assistance > DoNotCall > Payment Methods > Intercarrier Compensation > Profile Management > Presence > Availability > Location > Push Management > Digital Rights Management > Device Management > Authentication Credentials > Information verification level > >protocol feature > Authentication > Auditing > Multiple Syntax Support > Mutiple Language Support > Extensibility and Localisation Mechanisms _______________________________________________ Speermint mailing list Speermint@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint _______________________________________________ Speermint mailing list Speermint@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
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