RE: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field
"Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Mon, 15 March 2004 22:26 UTC
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From: "Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>
To: 'Jonathan Rosenberg' <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com>, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
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Subject: RE: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:23:15 -0600
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Thanks for these nits and other comments. At the conclusion of WGLC, I'll issue a revision that incorporates the proposed changes below. I think the only issue that requires substantial consideration below is the question of what type of URI needs to appear in a resource record identified by the "E2U+pres" service field. I agree that the current text here is weak. What I had in mind was something like "SHOULD be pres URI, MAY be other URI identifying a presence service, as appropriate, but understand that pres URI is most compatible". Does that work for you? Jon Peterson NeuStar, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:21 PM To: Richard Shockey Cc: enum@ietf.org; jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com Subject: Re: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field Some comments on the draft: 1. The abstract includes references to rfc2778 and rfc2916bis. I believe that you are not allowed to have references in an abstract, since the abstract frequently appears in isolation, without the rest of the document (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-nits.html). > ENUM exists primarily to facilitate > the interconnection of systems that rely on telephone numbers with > those that use URIs to route transactions. Nit: URIs don't do routing. They're names. Suggest: ".. that use URIs to identify resources." > The IMPP WG of the IETF has a defined a generic URI used to identify > a presence service for a particular resource: the 'pres' URI scheme > (defined in CPP [4]). This document describes an enumservice for > advertising presence information associated with an E.164 number. Nit: I'm not a fan of naming working groups in standards document, since standards frequently persist beyond the group itself. I would suggest: "The Common Profile for Presence (CPP) [4] defines the 'pres' URI scheme for identifying a presence resource". > The presence information that is shared varies by communications > service. The IETF IMPP WG has defined a Presence Information Data > Format (or PIDF [6]) for describing the presence data associated with > a presentity. same comment as above. > The scheme of the URI that will appear in the regexp field of a NAPTR > record using the 'E2U+pres' enumservice will be the 'pres' URI > scheme. There are, however, other URI schemes that can be used to > identify presence services. Its unclear from this text whether the URI MUST be a pres URI, or just SHOULD be a pres URI, and therefore a SIP URI, for example, would be OK. > However, revealing a pres URI in and of itself is unlikely to > introduce many privacy concerns (although depending on the structure > of the URI, it might reveal the full name or employer of the target). I think its worth saying that, in cases where this bit is a security concern (revealing the full name or employer of the target), anonymized URIs can be used to avoid such disclosure. > References This section is not split into normative and informative. I'm assuming that this specification is targeted for PS and not informational, right? Thanks, Jonathan R. Richard Shockey wrote: > > It was the consensus of the WG in Seoul that we proceed to last call > with this document. > > The intent of the last call is to solicit comments before submitting the > ID to the IESG as a Proposed Standard. > > The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now or > forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections which > have > not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need > correction. > > Work group last call will extend for 2 weeks from today March 8 to at > least March 22 though we can modify that if new issues come up. > > Title : Enumservice Registration for Presence > Services > Author(s) : J. Peterson > Filename : draft-ietf-enum-pres-00.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2003-12-18 > > This document registers an ENUM service for presence services (as > described in RFC2778 [2]) pursuant to the guidelines in RFC2916bis > [1]. Specifically, this document focuses on provisioning pres URIs > in ENUM. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-pres-00.txt > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives > NeuStar Inc. > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141@fwd.pulver.com > ENUM +87810-13313-31331 > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 > 815.333.1237 > <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> > <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
- [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field Richard Shockey
- Re: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field Peterson, Jon
- Re: [Enum] Last Call on Presence enumservice field Jonathan Rosenberg