Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]

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From: "Border, John" <John.Border@hughes.com>
To: Kuhn Nicolas <Nicolas.Kuhn@cnes.fr>, 'Joerg Deutschmann' <joerg.deutschmann@fau.de>, "etosat@ietf.org" <etosat@ietf.org>
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     The results we are in the process of writing up right now also focus on packet loss impact on bulk throughput.  I have asked for a slot at MAPRG to present the results but we intend to publish an I-D before then...


John



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Dear Joerg, 

Thank you for sharing these results with us. 
This seems to confirm that we have an issue when QUIC is confronted to a long RTT and loss-link. 
We will try to come up with "similar" experiments for the next IETF.

Kind regards,

Nicolas

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De : EToSat <etosat-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Joerg Deutschmann Envoyé : mercredi 9 octobre 2019 16:56 À : etosat@ietf.org Objet : Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]

Dear all,

we continued our QUIC over satellite performance measurements with different operators and QUIC implementations. Unfortunately, these are still only black-box tests. The results were presented at the 25th KaConf. The related paper [1] also gives an introduction to QUIC, therefore you probably want to skip to section 4 and 5.

[1] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/KaConf2019/KaConf2019_QUICoverSatellite_paper.pdf

Best regards,
Joerg




On 15.02.19 16:48, Joerg Deutschmann wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> thanks for the link to this interesting paper. We did some related 
> work, which you might be interested in. It will be presented at the 
> NetSys
> 2019 conference [1]. A version is available at [2].
> 
> While your "QUIC and SATCOM" paper provides more details regarding
> HTTP/2 vs. QUIC, we took a broader view. We measured page load times 
> over HTTP(S)/1.1 and HTTP/2, with and without VPNs. Additionally we 
> set up two Quic servers (Chromium QUIC and quic-go). All tests were 
> run with three different satellite internet providers, showing quite 
> some differences...
> 
> Best regards,
> Joerg
> 
> [1] 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.netsys2019.org__;!0rLxnc5oh4s!k
> AlU66iaWLJ6FEuJ0maSW_ZWJKLtUszz3bVm1hE3alEoGN5_V5RS6sNlMCe6cXvXkw$
> [2] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/NetSys2019_preprint.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 09.11.18 04:35, Kuhn Nicolas wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have recently posted on ArXiv an article on QUIC and its 
>> performance over a GEO SATCOM link.
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04970.pdf__;!0
>> rLxnc5oh4s!kAlU66iaWLJ6FEuJ0maSW_ZWJKLtUszz3bVm1hE3alEoGN5_V5RS6sNlMC
>> cNccHCHw$
>>
>> This paper has been presented at IETF 103 @MAPRG 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/
>> materials/agenda-103-maprg-0__;!0rLxnc5oh4s!kAlU66iaWLJ6FEuJ0maSW_ZWJ
>> KLtUszz3bVm1hE3alEoGN5_V5RS6sNlMCfUIN9rXA$
>> 0
>>
>> The code used to run these experiments is available, so do not 
>> hesitate to contact us if you want to reproduce our experiments.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Ludovic Thomas (ISAE-SUPAERO), Emmanuel Dubois (CNES), Nicolas Kuhn 
>> (CNES), Emmanuel Lochin (ISAE-SUPAERO)
>>
> 

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