Re: [EToSat] [QUIC performance and SATCOM]

Joerg Deutschmann <joerg.deutschmann@fau.de> Wed, 09 October 2019 14:56 UTC

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Dear all,

we continued our QUIC over satellite performance measurements with different operators and QUIC implementations. Unfortunately, these are still only black-box tests. The results were presented at the 25th KaConf. The related paper [1] also gives an introduction to QUIC, therefore you probably want to skip to section 4 and 5.

[1] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/KaConf2019/KaConf2019_QUICoverSatellite_paper.pdf

Best regards,
Joerg




On 15.02.19 16:48, Joerg Deutschmann wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> thanks for the link to this interesting paper. We did some related work, 
> which you might be interested in. It will be presented at the NetSys 
> 2019 conference [1]. A version is available at [2].
> 
> While your "QUIC and SATCOM" paper provides more details regarding 
> HTTP/2 vs. QUIC, we took a broader view. We measured page load times 
> over HTTP(S)/1.1 and HTTP/2, with and without VPNs. Additionally we set 
> up two Quic servers (Chromium QUIC and quic-go). All tests were run with 
> three different satellite internet providers, showing quite some 
> differences...
> 
> Best regards,
> Joerg
> 
> [1] www.netsys2019.org
> [2] www7content.cs.fau.de/~deutschmann/NetSys2019_preprint.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 09.11.18 04:35, Kuhn Nicolas wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have recently posted on ArXiv an article on QUIC and its 
>> performance over a GEO SATCOM link.
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04970.pdf
>>
>> This paper has been presented at IETF 103 @MAPRG 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-maprg-00
>>
>> The code used to run these experiments is available, so do not 
>> hesitate to contact us if you want to reproduce our experiments.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Ludovic Thomas (ISAE-SUPAERO), Emmanuel Dubois (CNES), Nicolas Kuhn 
>> (CNES), Emmanuel Lochin (ISAE-SUPAERO)
>>
>