Re: [Extra] Call for adoption, draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid

Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com> Sat, 11 August 2018 20:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Extra] Call for adoption, draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid
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On 08/11/2018 02:55 PM, Ned Freed wrote:
>> This extension can probably interact with :fcc.
>
> Definitely.
>
>>   Should the interop be
>> described in this draft of the :fcc draft?
>
> Why not have it build on the :fcc draft instead of creating a dependency
> in the other direction?

Agreed.



>> Additionally, the :mailboxid argument probably doesn't play well with
>> :create, or at least I don't see how it could without a mailbox name.
>
> Not sure I see the conflict. Of course you can't create a mailbox
> with the specified objectid, but in the fallback case :create would
> still be valid.
>
> It just needs to be spelled out in the document.

:create wouldn't have a mailbox name to use if :mailboxid is specified.  
:mailboxid changes the positional parameter in fileinto from a name to 
an id (unless I'm reading it incorrectly).



>> On 08/11/2018 01:26 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>> > As promised, I've written up a way of adding mailboxid support to 
>> Sieve.
>> >
>> > This draft is absolutely a first pass - I'm interested in feedback.
>> > Particularly the mailboxidexists test is a little clunky.
>> >
>> > I'd like to formally adopt this work into the EXTRA working group,
>> > it's within scope and fits with the other work we've been doing.  I
>> > suggest doing that in 2 weeks (Aug 24th) unless there are objections
>> > to taking on the work.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Bron.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original message -----
>> > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>> > To: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com 
>> <mailto:brong@fastmailteam.com>>
>> > Subject: New Version Notification for
>> > draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid-00.txt
>> > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:23:27 -0700
>> >
>> >
>> > A new version of I-D, draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid-00.txt
>> > has been successfully submitted by Bron Gondwana and posted to the
>> > IETF repository.
>> >
>> > Name: draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid
>> > Revision: 00
>> > Title: Sieve Email Filtering: delivery by mailboxid
>> > Document date: 2018-08-11
>> > Group: Individual Submission
>> > Pages: 6
>> > URL:
>> > 
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid-00.txt
>> > Status: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/
>> > Htmlized: 
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid-00
>> > Htmlized:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid
>> >
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> >   The OBJECTID capability of the IMAP protocol (I-D.ietf-extra-imap-
>> >   objectid) allows clients to identify mailboxes by a unique 
>> identifier
>> >   which survives rename.  In contrast, the Sieve mail filtering
>> >   language (RFC 5228) currently has no such capability. This memo
>> >   defines a Sieve extension that fills this gap: it adds a method for
>> >   specifying the unique identifier of a mailbox as a target for
>> >   fileinto rules, and a method for testing the existence of a mailbox
>> >   by its unique identifier.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> > submission
>> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>> >
>> > The IETF Secretariat
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >   Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd
>> >   brong@fastmailteam.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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