[Fann] Re: Call for adoption: draft-dong-fann-problem-statement-00 (Ends 2026-08-18)

["Dongjie (Jimmy)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Min,

Thanks for raising the question about the scope of the WG. This is a topic for WG discussion, and further discussion on the WG scope could happen on a separate thread.

I can just share some personal view. As specified in section 4.2 of this draft, the fast network notifications can be sent to different types of recipients, which include adjacent network nodes,  network nodes which are multiple hops away, the ingress network nodes, and the end hosts. While the type of recipients is not explicitly mentioned in the WG charter text. IMO the comment during IETF 126 meeting was mainly about the possible overlap/interaction with the work in the transport area, which was also raised in the TSV review of this draft. Another point is whether FANN will define a unified notification mechanism which applies to both the network nodes, and the hosts/edge nodes, or separate notification mechanisms need to be defined for network nodes and the hosts respectively. And if separate notifications are needed, which one should be prioritized in the WG?  Currently I have no answer to these questions, the problem statement draft can be updated to reflect the WG’s decision.

Best regards,
Jie

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Hi all,

In Section 4.2 of this draft in adoption poll, it describes *End Hosts* as a type of recipient of fast network notification, however when I presented problems and gap analysis for DCI congestion notification at IETF 126, I heard a statement that said if the end host is a consumer of congestion notification then the congestion notification is outside the scope of the FANN WG, so what on earth is it within or outside the scope of this new working group?

Cheers,
Xiao Min
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Abstract:
   Many network applications, ranging from Artificial Intelligence (AI)
   /Machine Learning (ML) training/inference to cloud services, require
   networks with various combination of high bandwidth, low delay and
   low jitter and minimal packet loss in data transfer.  This requires
   that the networks must rapidly adapt to the presence of faults,
   degradation and congestion.  However, existing routing and traffic
   management mechanisms often face limitations in responsiveness,
   coverage, and operational complexity, particularly in large-scale and
   high-bandwidth network environments (e.g. data center (DC) and data
   center interconnect (DCI)).  A good and timely understanding of
   network conditions can help to enable faster response to critical
   events, so as to enable the selection of paths with reduced latency
   and improve network utilization.  This document describes the gap
   analysis and the need for fast network notification, and identifies
   the set of problems which a fast network notification solution needs
   to address.

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