Draft ForCES Meeting Minutes, IETF 55
"Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@intel.com> Sun, 08 December 2002 03:45 UTC
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From: "Putzolu, David" <david.putzolu@intel.com>
Subject: Draft ForCES Meeting Minutes, IETF 55
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All, Please find below the draft minutes for the ForCES meeting at IETF 55. Please send any corrections or comments to the list or to myself or Patrick by Thursday, Dec 12. Cheers, David --- cut here --- Forwarding and Control Element Separation (forces) Monday, November 18 at 0900-1130 ================================== CHAIRS: Patrick Droz <dro@zurich.ibm.com> David Putzolu <david.putzolu@intel.com> Scribe: George Jones <george@uu.net> Agenda bashing: nothing changed Completed Last Calls draft-ietf-forces-framework-03.txt draft-ietf-forces-requirements-07.txt draft-ietf-forces-netlink-03.txt Discussion of draft-ietf-yang-model-01 - authors, history presented - motivation FE == Forwarding Element CE == Control Element * FE tells CE capabilities * FE tells CE current config * CE tells FE desired state - what is in the model * FE block (abstract base class) * Block library (Forwarding, QoS, filters, etc.) * Example FE Blocks * FE stage and directed graph * Two approaches in graph modeling * Topological (DiffServ) + No info carried forward * Topological (DiffServ) vs. Encoded State (QDDIM model) + Explicit info (preamble) carried forward to subsequent stages - open issues * Data modeling language: representation + SMI/SPPI/ASN.1/XML/UML ? * Topological vs. Encoded State approach * Modeling of actual functions + identify minimal categories/set of functions + model for each one - next steps * WG document * Data modeling language * define small set of functions Q: Is your intent to specify the way that the FE and CE communicate ? If so, it's very important to get right. A: yes. Q: (statement) Topological model is easier to reason about. A: We can take it on a case-by case basis. Q: (statement) We need to be aware that we don't just want to encode the a snapshot of the current state of the world A: We need help from the chairs to avoid this. Chair: show of hands, who's read ? Answer: not enough. Need more discussion to accept as a WG model. Abstract, not easy to discuss. Chair: We'd like people to start submitting actual protocol drafts. Easier to actually talk about/discuss. Action: model will not be WG document yet. Status of other drafts Closing: Do protocol submissions. End of meeting.
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