Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Finding a suitable name for the "promoter", "facilitator", etc.

Hi,

I see a potential problem with "owner", because some Alternative Networks are owned by users and some others are not.

My proposal is that we can perhaps go to something very generic, in order to avoid words with other connotations. Otherwise, I think we will never converge...

I would go for "Entity behind the network", if no one objects.

Jose

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: David Johnson [mailto:djohnson@csir.co.za]
> Enviado el: martes, 31 de mayo de 2016 12:01
> Para: Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>
> CC: Mitar <mmitar@gmail.com>; gaia <gaia@irtf.org>
> Asunto: Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Finding a
> suitable name for the "promoter", "facilitator", etc.
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Can't we just use the word 'owner' and define the 'owner' as the person,
> community or organisation that starts, organises and runs it.
> Although they may not even necessarily run it - but the ownership aspect for
> me is the most critical.
> 
> David
> ___________________________
> 
> David Johnson
> Principal Researcher
> Networks and Media group
> Meraka, CSIR
> Adjunct Senior Lecturer
> ICT4D, Computer Science Department
> University of Cape Town
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We probably need the opinion of English Native speakers here.
> >
> > We are trying to find a word meaning "the entity behind the
> > Alternative
> > Network": the entity that starts, organizes and runs it.
> >
> > Some alternatives are "promoter" (the current one), "facilitator",
> > "developer", "sponsor", "sponsoring entity", "fostering entity", or
> > perhaps a combination of them.
> >
> > - "promoter" can be: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/promoter
> >
> > 2. a person who initiates or takes part in the organizing of a
> > company, development of a project, etc.
> > 3. a person who organizes and provides financial backing for a
> > sporting event or entertainment.
> >
> > So it may sound a bit "limited" to the starting of something.
> >
> >
> > - "Facilitator": http://www.dictionary.com/browse/facilitator?s=t
> >
> > a person responsible for leading or coordinating the work of a group,
> > as one who leads a group discussion
> >
> > The problem of "facilitator" is that it may not be adequate for a
> > company, only for a person:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilitator
> >
> >
> > - "fostering entity"
> >  To foster: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/foster?s=t
> > 1. to promote the growth or development of; further; encourage: to
> > foster new ideas.
> > 2. to bring up, raise, or rear, as a foster child.
> >
> >
> > - "sponsor"
> >
> > 1. a person who vouches or is responsible for a person or thing.
> >
> >
> > Any other thoughts?
> >
> > Jose
> >
> >> -----Mensaje original-----
> >> De: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] En nombre de Jose Saldana
> >> Enviado el: jueves, 14 de abril de 2016 11:20
> >> Para: 'Mitar' <mmitar@gmail.com>
> >> CC: 'gaia' <gaia@irtf.org>
> >> Asunto: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments.
> > "promoter" or
> >> "facilitator"
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Mitar suggest replacing "promoter" with "facilitator"
> >> >
> >> > > 4.1.  Commercial model / promoter
> >> >
> >> > BTW, I think word "facilitator" is much better than word "promoter".
> >> > Networks are not only about PR. I suggest we replace "promoter"
> >> > with
> > "facilitator.
> >> >
> >> > >    The commercial model may have different implications regarding
> > the
> >> > >    ownership of the network equipment.  In some cases, each of
> >> > > the
> > users
> >> > >    of the community maintains the ownership over the equipment
> >> > > they
> > have
> >> > >    contributed, whereas in others there is an entity who owns the
> >> > >    equipment, or at least a part of it.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Any thoughts on this?
> >>
> >> Jose
> >>
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