Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Finding a suitable name for the "promoter", "facilitator", etc.

Hi All,

I only recently joined the list, but I was going to chime in to say the
same thing about "sponsor."

The truth is you might actually need more than one word, as the role that
the entity plays might actually be different in each case, sometimes the
entity/individual is organizing, sometimes they are facilitating others to
organize, and sometimes there is sponsorship involved. Perhaps it needs to
be a taxonomy of it's own?

-Georgia

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Mitar <mmitar@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> In my dictionary, sponsor has also the following meaning:
>
> "a person or organization that provides funds for a project or
> activity carried out by another,"
>
> I think especially for alternative networks we are investigating
> various forms of how networks are funded, so to use such word would be
> pretty untrue for example community networks which do not provide
> funds to the project.
>
> I prefer facilitator, but to offer one more, what about "organizer"?
>
>
> Mitar
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> > i would be inclined to use "sponsor"
> >
> > facilitator usually does not imply "ownership" of the effort
> > promoter sounds rather self-serving
> > fostering entity is just clumsy
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We probably need the opinion of English Native speakers here.
> >>
> >> We are trying to find a word meaning "the entity behind the Alternative
> >> Network": the entity that starts, organizes and runs it.
> >>
> >> Some alternatives are "promoter" (the current one), "facilitator",
> >> "developer", "sponsor", "sponsoring entity", "fostering entity", or
> >> perhaps a combination of them.
> >>
> >> - "promoter" can be: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/promoter
> >>
> >> 2. a person who initiates or takes part in the organizing of a company,
> >> development of a project, etc.
> >> 3. a person who organizes and provides financial backing for a sporting
> >> event or entertainment.
> >>
> >> So it may sound a bit "limited" to the starting of something.
> >>
> >>
> >> - "Facilitator": http://www.dictionary.com/browse/facilitator?s=t
> >>
> >> a person responsible for leading or coordinating the work of a group, as
> >> one who leads a group discussion
> >>
> >> The problem of "facilitator" is that it may not be adequate for a
> company,
> >> only for a person:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilitator
> >>
> >>
> >> - "fostering entity"
> >>  To foster: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/foster?s=t
> >> 1. to promote the growth or development of; further; encourage: to
> foster
> >> new ideas.
> >> 2. to bring up, raise, or rear, as a foster child.
> >>
> >>
> >> - "sponsor"
> >>
> >> 1. a person who vouches or is responsible for a person or thing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Any other thoughts?
> >>
> >> Jose
> >>
> >> > -----Mensaje original-----
> >> > De: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] En nombre de Jose Saldana
> >> > Enviado el: jueves, 14 de abril de 2016 11:20
> >> > Para: 'Mitar' <mmitar@gmail.com>
> >> > CC: 'gaia' <gaia@irtf.org>
> >> > Asunto: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments.
> >> "promoter" or
> >> > "facilitator"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Mitar suggest replacing "promoter" with "facilitator"
> >> > >
> >> > > > 4.1.  Commercial model / promoter
> >> > >
> >> > > BTW, I think word "facilitator" is much better than word "promoter".
> >> > > Networks are not only about PR. I suggest we replace "promoter" with
> >> "facilitator.
> >> > >
> >> > > >    The commercial model may have different implications regarding
> >> the
> >> > > >    ownership of the network equipment.  In some cases, each of the
> >> users
> >> > > >    of the community maintains the ownership over the equipment
> they
> >> have
> >> > > >    contributed, whereas in others there is an entity who owns the
> >> > > >    equipment, or at least a part of it.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts on this?
> >> >
> >> > Jose
> >> >
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