Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Aldebaro's suggestion #3
"Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es> Thu, 07 April 2016 14:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Aldebaro's suggestion #3
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Thanks a lot! We will try to integrate your suggestions in the next version (to appear soon). Jose De: Aldebaro Klautau [mailto:a.klautau@ieee.org] Enviado el: jueves, 7 de abril de 2016 16:44 Para: Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>; gaia@irtf.org Asunto: Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Aldebaro's suggestion #3 Dear all, First I would like to thank the editor for the careful handling of our suggestions. I tried to expand below the discussion on 3GPP technologies usage in alternative networks, and provide links to relevant pointers. Best regards, Aldebaro Current version: 6.2.1.2. GSM GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications), from ETSI, has also been used in Alternative Networks as a Layer 2 option, as explained in [Mexican], [Village], [Heimerl]. Suggestion: 6.2.1.2. GSM GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications), from ETSI, has also been used in Alternative Networks as a Layer 2 option, as explained in [Mexican], [Village], [Heimerl]. Open source GSM code such as [OpenBTS] and [OpenBSC] created an ecosystem with the participation of several companies [Range], [Endaga], [YateBTS] and deployments of voice, SMS and Internet services over alternative networks with an IP-based backhaul, for example. Internet navigation is restricted by relatively low bit rates [Osmocom]. Benefiting from the evolution of 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) standards, a clear trend is the integration of 4G [IEEE-SDR], [YateBTS] or 5G [OpenAir] functionalities, with significant increase of achievable bit rates. Depending on factors such as the allocated frequency band, the adoption of licensed spectrum can have advantages over the eventually higher frequencies used for WiFi, with respect to signal propagation and, consequently, coverage. Other factors favorable to 3GPP technologies, especially GSM, are the low cost and energy consumption of handsets, which facilitate the digital inclusion of very low-income communities that cannot afford WiFi-enabled smartphones or face difficulties for charging them. [OpenBTS] http://openbts.org/ [OpenBSC] http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/ [Range] http://www.rangenetworks.com/ [Endaga] http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/endaga-raises-12m-help-it-bring-cel lular-remote-villages/2014-12-03 [YateBTS] http://yatebts.com/ [Osmocom] http://osmocom.org/projects/osmopcu/wiki/GPRS_bitrates/2 [IEEE-SDR] Software-Defined Radio Will Let Communities Build Their Own 4G Networks, IEEE Spectrum 2015. Available at http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/wireless/softwaredefined-radio-will-let-com munities-build-their-own-4g-networks [OpenAir] http://www.openairinterface.org/ On 28/03/2016 08:18, Jose Saldana wrote: Suggestion #3 Current version: GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications), from ETSI, has also been used in Alternative Networks as a Layer 2 option, as explained in [Mexican], [Village], [Heimerl]. Opinion: Item 6.2.1.2 could be expanded to include other 3GPP technologies, such as 3G, 4G/LTE [IEEE-SDR] and 5G [OpenAir], mentioning systems such as [OpenBTS], [OpenBSC] and [YateBTS]. If this is reasonable, I could try to expand it. [IEEE-SDR] Software-Defined Radio Will Let Communities Build Their Own 4G Networks, IEEE Spectrum 2015. Available at http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/wireless/softwaredefined-radio-will-let-com munities-build-their-own-4g-networks [OpenBTS] http://openbts.org/ [OpenBSC] http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/ [YateBTS] http://yatebts.com/ [OpenAir] http://www.openairinterface.org/ [JS] I think we must be as inclusive as possible. However, we have to report only those technologies that are being used in real "Alternative networks". Those ideas that are only in a first research stage can be reported, but only as "recent efforts" or "future possibilities". If you could expand the text, including these references, and stating the current status of each of them, we can discuss it with the people in the list. Thanks, Jose De: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] En nombre de Aldebaro Klautau Enviado el: viernes, 11 de marzo de 2016 11:20 Para: gaia@irtf.org <mailto:gaia@irtf.org> Asunto: Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments Hello, I have recently joined the GAIA group and found draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments-03.txt very interesting. I am not sure if this is the proper way of contributing, but I am sending attached some suggestions. PS: Our university (UFPA) has partnership with Brazilian institutions to provide telephony services and Internet via GPRS to underserved (and very poor) communities in the Amazon forest. We are then biased towards using GSM due e.g. to the low cost of the handsets. Regards, Aldebaro -- ========================== Aldebaro Klautau www.laps.ufpa.br <http://www.laps.ufpa.br> - www.lasse.ufpa.br <http://www.lasse.ufpa.br> Phone: +55 (91) 3201-7674 Address: UFPA - PPGEE - LaPS - CP: 8619 66075.110 - Belem - Para - Brazil
- Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alter… Jose Saldana
- Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alter… Aldebaro Klautau
- Re: [gaia] Review required: draft-irtf-gaia-alter… Jose Saldana