[Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple-cipid-06
Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com> Mon, 21 November 2005 23:03 UTC
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Subject: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple-cipid-06
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At 3:11 PM -0500 11/21/05, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: >Spencer: > >thanks for your, as usual, helpful review. I will make the recommended changes, as they seem to be editorial clarifications. All: I'm assuming I should create a new version and just submit it to the I-D editor? > >Henning Hi Henning, This review is part of the IESG review of this document (Brian delegates review to the Gen-ART team). Please wait for the rest of the IESG reviews before re-spinning the document. thanks, Ted Hardie >>Details: >>1. Introduction >> >> We describe elements for providing a "business card", references to >> the homepage, map, representative sound, display name and an icon. >> All elements extend the <person> or, less commonly, <tuple> element >> in the presence data model [9]. The <tuple> element is only extended >> with CIPID elements if the information describes a service referring >> to another person that is marked by an RPID <relationship> element >> with a value other than 'self'. All elements described in this >> document are optional. >> >>Spencer: Two points here - RPID is used without expansion, but more >>important - there are a fair number of references to RPID in this document, >>including an example in Section 4 that includes both RPID and CIPID, but >>there's no discussion of the relationship between CIPID and RPID in the >>document. >> >> The namespace URI for these elements defined by this specification is >> a URN [2], using the namespace identifier 'ietf' defined by [3] and >> extended by [4]: >> >> urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:cipid >> >>Spencer: is it reasonable to prefix this string with URN: for readability, >>as in Section 6.1? (It just looks like random characters, at first glance) >> >>3. CIPID Elements >> >> Some of the elements below refer to content using URIs. If the >> watcher retrieves the content pointed to by the URI, it may reveal to >> the presentity that it is currently using the presence application. >> Thus, for increased watcher privacy, a presence application MAY want >> to cache these objects for later use. >> >>Spencer: this text just seems odd here - is this closer to Security >>Considerations text than an introduction to CIPID Elements? Similar text >>does appear in Security Considerations... >> >>3.2 Display-Name Element >> >> The <display-name> element includes the name identifying the tuple or >> person that the presentity suggests should be shown by the watcher >> user interface. It is up to watcher user interface to choose whether >> to heed this suggestion or use some other suitable string. >> >>Spencer: "up to the watcher user interface"? >> >>3.4 Icon Element >> >> The <icon> element provides a URI pointing to an image (icon) >> representing the tuple or person. The watcher MAY use this >> information to represent the tuple or person in a graphical user >> interface. Presentities SHOULD provide images of sizes and aspect >> ratios that are appropriate for rendering as an icon. Support for >> JPEG, PNG and GIF formats is RECOMMENDED. >> >>Spencer: "The watcher MAY use this information" probably shouldn't be >>normative text for this specification. Suggest lower-case "may". >> >>Spencer: In 3.4 and 3.5, multiple formats are RECOMMENDED with no >>mandatory-to-implement format. Is there a format that could be >>mandatory-to-implement, so that conformant implementations won't discover >>that they don't interoperate? >> >>3.5 Map Element >> >> The <map> element provides a URI pointing to a map related to the >> tuple or person. The watcher MAY use this information to represent >> the tuple or person in a graphical user interface. The map may be >> either an image, an HTML client-side image map or a geographical >> information system (GIS) document, e.g., encoded as GML. Support for >> images formatted as PNG and GIF is RECOMMENDED. >> >>Spencer: same comments on "watcher MAY" and "RECOMMENDED" as in 3.4. >> >>4. Example >> >> An example combining RPID and CIPID is shown below: >> >>Spencer: I saw in the PROTO questionnaire for this document that the working >>group has decided not to recombine the CIPID and RPID documents, which is >>fine, but I'd suggest that at least one example in this document be >>CIPID-only, so that an implementor who is working on CIPID doesn't have to >>reference both documents to understand the example. The example included is >>fine, I'm just asking for a CIPID-only example. _______________________________________________ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple-cip… Spencer Dawkins
- [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple… Henning Schulzrinne
- [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple… Henning Schulzrinne
- [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple… Ted Hardie
- [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-simple… Spencer Dawkins