Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-03.txt
Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Sun, 10 February 2013 11:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-03.txt
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Brian, Thanks again for your review. > Major Issues: > ------------- > > > Area Shopping > > I'm not entirely happy with this discussion. From the point of view of the > person trying to introducing a new topic that does indeed cross areas, it is > *inevitable* to commit the sin of area shopping. <shout>This is not a fault of > the shopper; it's the fault of the IETF for having areas in the first place.</shout> > > I agree that it's the IESG's, and also the IAB's, job to resolve this when > it arises. But the current text makes it sound as if the protagonist is to > blame for bringing a cross-area problem to the IETF. I already replied on a separate thread about this. Agreed. > > There also seems to be a missing topic, here and in the recommendations: > the importance of the BOF (and bar BOF) process, and topic review by the > IAB, in identifying cross-area topics and chartering them carefully. The > worst thing that can happen is to BOF and charter a topic within one area, > but discover later that it is in fact a cross-area topic. There are > relevant RFCs: 5434, 6771. A good point. Thanks. > > Minor Issues: > ------------- > > > 2. Examples of Cross-Area Work > > > > Many IETF efforts cross area boundaries. Some recent examples of > > such work include: > > > > o The development of a routing-protocol based bridging model. This > > work has been going on in the TRILL WG on the Internet Area and in > > parallel in the ISIS WG on the Routing Area. > > A very important aspect of this example is that it *also* overlaps with IEEE work. > That scenario should surely be mentioned, at least by a cross-reference to the > various RFCs on liaisons: 4052, 4053, 4691. Yes. > > > o The RENUM WG on the Operations and Management Area is addressing > > renumbering issues, but will have to work with other areas if > > changes or extensions to specific protocols are required. > > The WG name is 6RENUM. In fact its charter is explicit that protocol work > will *not* be done in the WG. (The same is true of V6OPS.) Right. Will fix. > > > 3. Rationale for Cross-Area Work > ... > > The > > actual solution work is then taken up by the relevant technical > > community that works on the protocol that needs to be extended. > > It would be useful to refer to the RFCs about extensions: 4775, 6709. OK > > Nits > ---- > > There are numerous errors in the choice of prepositions, e.g. "The LWIG WG on the > Internet Area", that need to be fixed during editing. OK Jari
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-arkko-iesg-c… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-arkko-ie… Jari Arkko