[Gen-art] RE: gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-framework-09.txt
"Mary Barnes" <mary.barnes@nortel.com> Wed, 17 October 2007 01:59 UTC
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Hi Scott, Thanks for the review. I have a few responses embedded below [MB]. Mary. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Brim [mailto:swb@employees.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:16 PM To: Gen-ART Mailing List; Barnes, Mary (RICH2:AR00); Chris Boulton; Orit Levin; Adam Roach; Cullen Jennings Subject: gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-framework-09.txt I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-ietf-xcon-framework-09.txt Reviewer: Scott Brim Review Date: 15 Oct 2007 IETF LC End Date: 22 Oct 2007 IESG Telechat date: (if known) Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC. I have a couple of comments which should not block it. Comments: - idnits says: == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-simple-message-sessions has been published as RFC 4975 == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-xcon-bfcp-connection has been published as RFC 5018 - As a naive reader, I wonder why this is standards track as opposed to informational. I get the sense that there are external reasons. It is very general. If I were building a conferencing system, I would first start with requirements, then design a system to meet those requirements, and then perhaps go back to this document to see if I had forgotten anything. It might help me to look through this document during the design phase, just to narrow my thinking, but I probably wouldn't want my thinking narrowed. It might help with interoperability, but since it is so general it does not really constrain implementors of individual components well enough to ensure interoperability. It feels more like a thought document, something the WG would use internally while it defined actual specs. So I wonder why it is not just informational, but I believe there are reasons. [MB] We did debate this in the WG as someone else had the same suggestion as yourself. But, it was agreed that the original deliverable was defined to be standards track, so we kept it that way. [/MB] - Some of the language could be edited for clarity, but that is not enough to stop the document since it's not in a protocol specification. For example, "The conference object identifier is created both by the conferencing system based on internal actions as well as based on specific conference protocol requests.". [MB] I won't disagree that the wording may be awkward in some places - partly due to multiple editors and other cases as a result of careful wording to reflect WG decisions. I'm hoping that anything really untoward could be fixed by the RFC editor. But, if you could ship a list of the worst offenders, I can make a pass through and tidy up before we progress. [/MB] _______________________________________________ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art
- [Gen-art] gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-frame… Scott Brim
- [Gen-art] RE: gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-f… Mary Barnes
- [Gen-art] RE: gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-f… Scott Brim
- [Gen-art] Re: gen-art review of draft-ietf-xcon-f… Cullen Jennings