Re: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review of draft-bberry-pppoe-credit-04.txt

Mark Townsley wrote:
> 
> Focusing on one point (authors, please respond to the other issues 
> directly)
> 
> Elwyn Davies wrote:
> 
>>  Even were it to be published I am unclear why this document should be
>>  Informational. It is documenting a proposed extension to a standard
>>  (although, if the authors wished, it could have made use of the
>>  existing Vendor-specific tag and then it would legitimately have been
>>  an Informational document on that front - the new message types are
>>  another matter) and as such ought to be aiming for PS.
> 
> 
> This document is extending PPPoE, which by no means is a standard of any 
> kind. I'm not sure what status other than Informational I could ask for 
> here.

You can't, but that leads to another question - why isn't PPoE a standards
track protocol? I blinked back when that happened, apparently. It seems
to me we need to address that question before thinking about PPoE extensions.
(As far as I understand it, this draft extendes the PPoE code number space,
not a general PPP code space.)
> 
>>
>>  Assuming this document is approved, it needs an IANA considerations
>>  section. I think that it effectively creates two registries for
>>  PPPoE discovery message ids and discovery option tags which (AFAICS)
>>  weren't setup by RFC2516 although the TAG registry is implicit in the
>>  wording of RFC2516.

I don't know the history of 2516 but it seems to be a poster child for why
we require IANA Considerations sections now.
>>
> 
> We intend to ask for an IANA space for the PPPoE tag registry. For this, 
> and other PPPoE extensions.
> 
> draft-arberg-pppoe-iana-00.txt

That covers the tags but not the codes. RFC 2516 defines 8-bit codes
like 0x09 and draft-bberry adds several more like 0x0A. So I think that
field needs a registry too.

In any case, since you agree that this needs an IANA registry, it can't be
an RFC Editor submission, period.

     Brian

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