Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-10

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Wed, 04 April 2018 19:46 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:46:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-10
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Dan, thanks for your review. David, thanks for your response. I’ve entered a No Objection ballot.

Alissa

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:19 AM, David <davidh@simula.no> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Thank you for reviewing this. We have just submitted an update that
> addresses the major and minor issue you commented on. Thanks!
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 02 2018 at 09:37, Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
>> Review result: Almost Ready
>> 
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just
>> like any other last call comments.
>> 
>> For more information, please see the FAQ at
>> 
>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>> 
>> Document: draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-10
>> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
>> Review Date: 2018-03-01
>> IETF LC End Date: 2018-03-16
>> IESG Telechat date: 2018-04-05
>> 
>> Summary:
>> 
>> Almost Ready
>> 
>> This is an interesting and well-written document. The method described in the
>> document have a proposed status of Experimental that seems appropriate, and I
>> liked the fact that the expected feedback from the experiments is mentioned in
>> Section 6. I believe that the document is almost ready for publication from the
>> Gen-ART perspective, but lacks reference and relation to existing work in the
>> IETF related to the definitions and measurement methods for metrics like packet
>> loss or one-way delay. Adding this information would make clear what is
>> currently missing and why this work is needed.
>> 
>> Major issues:
>> 
>> 1. The document does not refer or relate to existing work in the IETF. Metrics
>> like packet loss or one-way-delay have been defined in IETF WGs like IPPM and
>> dealt with in real-time applications context by XRBLOCK. For example Packet
>> Loss is defined by  RFC 2680, OWD by RFC 7679. Are these applicable? What is
>> missing and why new work is necessary? I assume that there are good answers to
>> these questions, but these are not included in the document.
>> 
>> Minor issues:
>> 
>> 1. It would be useful to explain what the authors mean in this document by
>> 'signal' as the usage of the term is different than in other context. For
>> example in section 1.2, or more specifically in section 1.2.1 where a sentence
>> like 'Packet loss is often a relatively rare signal.' is hard to understand
>> without such context explanation.
>> 
>> Nits/editorial comments:
>> 
>> 1. Several acronyms are not expanded at first occurrence - for example, but not
>> limited to: RTP, ECN, etc.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Hayes
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