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Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-discussion-recharter-00.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Thu, 20 August 2020 04:25 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:25:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-discussion-recharter-00.txt
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:11 PM Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
wrote:

> On 8/20/20 12:05 AM, Rob Sayre wrote:
>
>
> It seems like the ietf@ list has been damaged by "sealioning".
>
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sealioning
>
> I can't tell exactly which messages fall under that definition, but I am
> pretty sure that some of them do.
>
>
> I generally find it unhelpful in the extreme to presume bad intent in the
> absence of a preponderance of evidence.
>

That is pretty much the definition of the trust that sealioning takes
advantage of.

I favor removing the habitat. I don't want to guess at anyone's
motivations, and I don't see a lot of productive input coming from the ietf@
list that couldn't be delivered elsewhere.

thanks,
Rob

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