Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 04 November 2019 22:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00.txt
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Hi,

First a major nit: I-D expiry is mandated by RFC2026:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-6.1.2
The mention in RFC2418 is incidental.

Then:

> Forced expiration serves no purpose that is not adequately served by
> the publication date on the document.

A date of publication alone does not communicate that a draft is
a draft and that, as BCP9 says:

>       *   Under no circumstances should an Internet-Draft    *
>       *   be referenced by any paper, report, or Request-    *
>       *   for-Proposal, nor should a vendor claim compliance *
>       *   with an Internet-Draft.                            *

While the choice of 6 months might seem arbitary, the defined
date of expiry IMHO helps to communicate to readers that
a draft is only a draft. And it also acts as a signal that
there might be a lack of momentum behind a proposal, if a
draft has expired without being updated.

Regards
   Brian

On 05-Nov-19 11:27, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>         Title           : Internet-Drafts Don't Expire
>         Author          : Martin Thomson
> 	Filename        : draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 4
> 	Date            : 2019-11-04
> 
> Abstract:
>    The long-standing insistence that Internet-Drafts carry expiration
>    dates is a concept that is no longer necessary.  This document
>    removes requirements for expiration for Internet-Drafts from RFC
>    2418/BCP 25.
> 
> Note to Readers
> 
>    Discussion of this document takes place on the GENDISPATCH Working
>    Group mailing list (gendispatch@ietf.org), which is archived at
>    https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/gendispatch/ [1].
> 
>    Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
>    https://github.com/martinthomson/no-expiry [2].
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry/
> 
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00
> 
> 
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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