Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00.txt

Given that Martin isn't subscribed to the gendispatch list, I expect 
he'll need to be Cc'ed to see this. I have now done so.

Martin, shall I take this to mean that you'd like agenda time in 
Singapore?

pr

On 4 Nov 2019, at 16:48, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First a major nit: I-D expiry is mandated by RFC2026:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-6.1.2
> The mention in RFC2418 is incidental.
>
> Then:
>
>> Forced expiration serves no purpose that is not adequately served by
>> the publication date on the document.
>
> A date of publication alone does not communicate that a draft is
> a draft and that, as BCP9 says:
>
>>       *   Under no circumstances should an Internet-Draft    *
>>       *   be referenced by any paper, report, or Request-    *
>>       *   for-Proposal, nor should a vendor claim compliance *
>>       *   with an Internet-Draft.                            *
>
> While the choice of 6 months might seem arbitary, the defined
> date of expiry IMHO helps to communicate to readers that
> a draft is only a draft. And it also acts as a signal that
> there might be a lack of momentum behind a proposal, if a
> draft has expired without being updated.
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 05-Nov-19 11:27, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>> directories.
>>
>>
>>         Title           : Internet-Drafts Don't Expire
>>         Author          : Martin Thomson
>> 	Filename        : draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00.txt
>> 	Pages           : 4
>> 	Date            : 2019-11-04
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    The long-standing insistence that Internet-Drafts carry expiration
>>    dates is a concept that is no longer necessary.  This document
>>    removes requirements for expiration for Internet-Drafts from RFC
>>    2418/BCP 25.
>>
>> Note to Readers
>>
>>    Discussion of this document takes place on the GENDISPATCH Working
>>    Group mailing list (gendispatch@ietf.org), which is archived at
>>    https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/gendispatch/ [1].
>>
>>    Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
>>    https://github.com/martinthomson/no-expiry [2].
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry/
>>
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-00
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of 
>> submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
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>>

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