Re: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review

"Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net> Fri, 05 June 2009 11:14 UTC

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From: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>
To: "'DRAGE, Keith (Keith)'" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com>, "'James M. Polk'" <jmpolk@cisco.com>, 'Bernard Aboba' <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>, geopriv@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:drage@alcatel-lucent.com] 
>Sent: 05 June, 2009 13:38
>To: Hannes Tschofenig; 'James M. Polk'; 'Bernard Aboba'; 
>geopriv@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review
>
>You get the next version by proposing precise text against the 
>listed open issues, or by opening another issue.
>
>Keith
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org
>> [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:04 AM
>> To: 'James M. Polk'; 'Bernard Aboba'; geopriv@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review
>> 
>> I am looking forward to the next version.  
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: James M. Polk [mailto:jmpolk@cisco.com]
>> >Sent: 05 June, 2009 11:52
>> >To: Hannes Tschofenig; 'Bernard Aboba'; geopriv@ietf.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review
>> >
>> >Hannes
>> >
>> >Please re-read what Richard said about this -- (paraphrasing)
>> >
>> >         "the -00 version of this doc will be the text from RFC 3825
>> >         *with* the new boilerplate, and that's all."
>> >
>> >-01 and beyond will have changed text, based on WG 
>consensus of what 
>> >needs to be changed (i.e., Alissa's 6 items, at least).
>> >
>> >James
>> >
>> >At 02:54 AM 6/5/2009, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>> >>Hi Bernard,
>> >>
>> >>the only a few comments at this point in time.
>> >>
>> >>I cannot find the person(s) that have brought up the issue,
>> tried to
>> >>convince the working group that there is a problem for
>> years and have
>> >>submitted documents to explain the issue anywhere in the document 
>> >>(neither as author(s), contributor(s) nor anything else).
>> >>
>> >>That cannot be right.
>> >>
>> >>I don't see the guys who implemented this specification (based on 
>> >>Martin's
>> >>clarifications) listed in the document either. We should
>> acknowledge
>> >>their work a bit more ("Remember: Rough consensus and
>> RUNNING CODE")
>> >>given that they are the poor folks who had to decipher our
>> mysterious
>> >>specifications and very likely spent a lot of time doing so.
>> >>
>> >>Ciao
>> >>Hannes
>> >>
>> >>________________________________
>> >>
>> >>         From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org 
>> >>[mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Aboba
>> >>         Sent: 05 June, 2009 08:06
>> >>         To: geopriv@ietf.org
>> >>         Subject: [Geopriv] -00 Strawman of RFC 3825bis for Review
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Starting from the text of RFC 3825, I have produced
>> >a strawman
>> >>-00 draft of RFC 3825bis:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/GEOPRIV/draft-ietf-geopriv-rfc38
>> >25bis-00.
>> >>txt
>> >>
>> >>         Comments welcome.
>> >>
>> >>         Other than the editorial changes outlined in
>> Appendix B, the
>> >>basis of the -00 strawman is RFC 3825, so that no technical
>> >differences should
>> >>have been introduced.   Just to make sure, I have compared 
>> >the text to RFC
>> >>3825 line by line.
>> >>
>> >>         The -00 strawman  generates no errors or warings
>> >when reviewed
>> >>by the ID-NITS tool (see below).
>> >>
>> >>         On checking the URLs provided in the Reference
>> section, two
>> >>questions arose:
>> >>
>> >>         a. EPSG.  One of the URLs given for the EPSG now
>> resolves to
>> >>the IHS site map:
>> >>
>> >>         http://www.ihsenergy.com/epsg/geodetic2.html
>> >>
>> >>         Does this URL need to be updated, removed or left as is?
>> >>
>> >>         b. WGS 84.  There is no longer a web site
>> configured at the
>> >>cited
>> >>URL:
>> >>         http://www.wgs84.com/
>> >>
>> >>         Is there an updated URL available?
>> >>
>> >>         ===========================================
>> >>         ID-NITS output
>> >>
>> >>         idnits 2.11.11
>> >>
>> >>         tmp/draft-ietf-geopriv-rfc3825bis-00.txt:
>> >>
>> >>           Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the
>> >IETF Trust (see
>> >>           http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info):
>> >>
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
>> >---------
>> >>-----
>> >>
>> >>              No issues found here.
>> >>
>> >>           Checking nits according to
>> >>http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt:
>> >>
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
>> >---------
>> >>-----
>> >>
>> >>              No issues found here.
>> >>
>> >>           Checking nits according to
>> >http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html:
>> >>
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
>> >---------
>> >>-----
>> >>
>> >>              No issues found here.
>> >>
>> >>           Miscellaneous warnings:
>> >>
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
>> >---------
>> >>-----
>> >>
>> >>           -- The document has a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378
>> work, but
>> >>was first
>> >>              submitted on or after 10 November 2008.  Does
>> it really
>> >>need the
>> >>              disclaimer?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>           Checking references for intended status: 
>> Proposed Standard
>> >>
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
>> >---------
>> >>-----
>> >>
>> >>              (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using 
>> >>normative references
>> >>              to lower-maturity documents in RFCs)
>> >>
>> >>           -- Possible downref: Non-RFC (?) normative
>> >reference: ref. 'EPSG'
>> >>
>> >>           -- Possible downref: Non-RFC (?) normative
>> >reference: ref. 'WGS84'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>              Summary: 0 errors (**), 0 warnings (==), 3
>> >comments (--).
>> >>
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>> >>
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