Re: [Geopriv] Text changes in 3825bis-08
"Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Sat, 13 February 2010 00:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Text changes in 3825bis-08
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Do we have agreement on a proposed text change for this sub-issue? From: Richard L. Barnes [mailto:rbarnes@bbn.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:37 PM To: Thomson, Martin Cc: Bernard Aboba; geopriv@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Proposed text for 3825bis Are you referring to the quantization error? highvalue = value | mask versus: highvalue = ( value | mask ) + 1 (== lowvalue + scale) (the all-0xFF high value vs. the next low value) If that's the concern, then we might as well just adjust the fixed-point version to use the "+1" version. I guess I'll agree that you're unlikely to get errors simply due to the fact that you're doing floating-point arithmetic in this case. --Richard On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Thomson, Martin wrote: The error is absolute (it's 2^-8 for altitude), it doesn't make sense to say "up to". From: Richard L. Barnes [mailto:rbarnes@bbn.com] Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2010 10:16 AM To: Thomson, Martin Cc: Bernard Aboba; geopriv@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Proposed text for 3825bis Good point on the quantification: Suggested fix: s/up to floating-point errors/up to a possible error of 2^-25/ On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Thomson, Martin wrote: Hi Richard, I notice that there is a small error in the first paragraph. Section X: s/versions 1 and 2/versions 0 and 1/ I'll also note that the difference between setting bits and using exponents of two is quantifiable. The error in the upper value is 2^-25.
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