Re: [Geopriv] SIP Location Conveyance ??

["DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" <[e-mail]>]

This has gone round in circles often enough that I want GEOPRIV to make,
and document, a consensus call on the way forward.

That can either be via a WG draft with consensus support, or a call on
the GEOPRIV mailing list, but it has got to happen.

We do not touch it in SIP until that occurs. 

The text in conveyance already represents a prior SIP WG decision. 

Regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Brian Rosen
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:02 PM
> To: 'Hannes Tschofenig'; 'James M. Polk'
> Cc: 'GEOPRIV'
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] SIP Location Conveyance ??
> 
> But there was indeed a subsequent hallway conversation, which 
> did move the concepts forward.  I think James is correct that 
> the hallway conversation has to be turned into text, and the 
> text confirmed as working group consensus.  I suspect that is 
> a sip consensus with geopriv having some say.
> 
> It wouldn't bother me if -conveyance was the mechanism for 
> text proposals.
> I think we might put revised -conveyance text on the list for 
> comment (not a new version yet).  That would be as opposed to 
> a new version of Jon's draft.
> I'd like someone else to summarize the hallway conversation, 
> and then James and I can write up some new -conveyance text 
> and put just that text on the list, and then call for 
> consensus on that.  Barring any complications, we can include 
> that in the next -conveyence rev.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:04 AM
> To: James M. Polk
> Cc: GEOPRIV
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] SIP Location Conveyance ??
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> I don't want to get things stalled just because nobody knows 
> who is going todo the next step.
> I also don't want to stall things because there is this 
> interaction between 2 working groups. Given that only a small 
> number of people really care about the content and those are 
> the same people that participate in SIP and in GEOPRIV I 
> don't see a need to make this more complicated than it is.
> 
> So, who is responsible for doing a writeup on the discussed 
> issue? Then, Robert can determine whether there is consensus 
> in the group.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> PS: During the GEOPRIV meeting I got the impression that 
> there was some interest in addressing the issue as proposed by Jon.
> 
> 
> James M. Polk wrote:
> > At 02:57 AM 3/30/2008, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> >> When are we going to see a new version of SIP Location 
> Conveyance that
> >> addresses the issues raised in
> >> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-peterson-geopriv-retransmission-00.txt?
> >
> > has there been any consensus call for this?
> >
> > answer -> no
> >
> > This is still an individual submission. Is this going to 
> progress (at 
> > all), as an individual, or as a Geopriv WG item?
> >
> > For that matter, has there been an effective summary of what was 
> > discussed in the hallway in Philly as a proposed solution 
> -> that the 
> > WG has agreed upon <-
> >
> > no, I have not seen that on any list
> >
> > Conveyance cannot move until Geopriv agrees what should happen
> >
> > Once this agreement is reached in Geopriv, the SIP WG gets 
> their say 
> > in the matter *because* what the peterson ID suggests (that 
> needs to 
> > be changed at least a little bit) is to modify a SIP header 
> parameter 
> > -- which the SIP WG needs to agree to...
> >
> >
> >> There is a dependency from ECRIT Framework/Phone BCP on 
> SIP Location
> >> Conveyance and hence it would be nice to get things going 
> already now;
> >> no reason to wait for the next draft submission deadline.
> >>
> >> Ciao
> >> Hannes
> >>
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