[Green] Re: Should GREEN cover batteries? (decision about negative instantaneous-power)
Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Mon, 31 August 2026 17:18 UTC
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Hi Benoit, >> - Retain instantaneous-power as int32. Add a comment saying that negative values are for power generating components. > That makes sense. >> - Nameplate-power becomes a int32. Same comment. > Thinking some more about it (and contradicting myself in my previous email), I am wondering whether it make sense? > Nameplate is a rating, not a flow. A 750 W supply is rated 750 W; what does a negative rating mean, since there is no instant at which a nameplate value is being measured in some direction. How do you model a 750W power supply? Right now, I see no way. > Proposal: keep uint32, but fix the description. IMHO, that’s insufficient. >> - Total-energy-consumed becomes a int64. Same comment. >> - Delete total-energy-delivered. > I would keep the previous two together, as uint64. A sign is sufficient for a rate but insufficient for an accumulator. Instantaneous power is a value at an instant, so the sign carries the direction with no loss. A UPS battery that cycles daily has a net counter that oscillates around zero forever and conveys nothing: you lose the energy throughput, and you lose round-trip efficiency (delivered/consumed), which for a battery is the single most useful derived figure there is. Then this feels completely inconsistent with the instantaneous power. Tony
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- [Green] Re: Should GREEN cover batteries? (decisi… Tony Li
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- [Green] Re: Should GREEN cover batteries? (decisi… Tony Li
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