[GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping and interoperability
Paolo Lucente <paolo@ntt.net> Tue, 01 September 2026 23:44 UTC
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Subject: [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping and interoperability
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Hi Saumya, All, I think your proposal to make a "super draft" around statistics instead of doing sparse efforts here and there - which for once they are sparse but they are also difficult to track and put together in one framework - has definitely some merit. The details can be worked out along the way. I wanted to take this opportunity for a side consideration, this did emerge actually from a recent conversation Camilo and myself had around the F flag draft: we are collectively putting lots of effort and attention to statistics in BMP but how important and, even more importantly, how used are they? So, especially among operators / BMP users reading, could we do something as basic as a show of hands (of course the more elaboration the better) in this sense? Are you using statistics? Yes/no? If into elaborating more: for what use-case(s), ie. just storing them for analysis, some sort of validation, else? Paolo On 17/8/26 15:08, Dikshit, Saumya wrote: > > Hello All , > > I would like feedback on a BMP statistics issue that appears to be > missing from the current discussion. > > There are several ways to represent the same class of object in BMP > today: per-instance gauge values scoped by AFI/SAFI, RD, EVPN instance, > or route-change policy. > A collector that wants to support all of these may end up needing > multiple incompatible parsers for essentially the same operational concept. > This is already being discussed in parallel emails chains and this the > gap I am trying to address with the following drafts: > > * > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saumthimma-evpn-ip-binding- > sync/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saumthimma-evpn-ip- > binding-sync/> > * > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dikshit-grow-bmp-rd-scoped- > rib-stats/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dikshit-grow-bmp- > rd-scoped-rib-stats/> > * > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smc-grow-bmp-route-change- > stats/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smc-grow-bmp-route- > change-stats/> > > > This is an ask for review comments on the direction: > > * > whether a common instance-scoped / RD-scoped BMP statistics > structure is the right approach, and whether the statistics > ecosystem needs a shared pattern before these extensions proliferate. > > > I would especially value feedback from people working on: > > - BMP statistics > - BMP data models > - EVPN and VPN RIB reporting > - route-change and policy-driven telemetry > > If the WG thinks a common pattern is useful, I would be happy to align > the drafts around that structure. > If not, It would be great to know about it now, than discovering it later. > > Thanks. > Saumya Dikshit
- [GROW] review request: BMP statistics scoping and… Dikshit, Saumya
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Paolo Lucente
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Dikshit, Saumya
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Thomas.Graf
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Dikshit, Saumya
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Dikshit, Saumya
- [GROW] Re: review request: BMP statistics scoping… Dikshit, Saumya