Re: grow: draft-griffin-bgp-wedgies-00.txt as a WG document?

David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> Wed, 15 September 2004 14:06 UTC

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:57:31 -0700
From: David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net>
To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@nexthop.com>
Cc: grow@lists.uoregon.edu, gih@apnic.net, tim.griffin@intel.com
Subject: Re: grow: draft-griffin-bgp-wedgies-00.txt as a WG document?
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 09:54:48AM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote:
>> Dave,
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 08:01:12AM -0700, David Meyer wrote:
>> > 	Please take a look at draft-griffin-bgp-wedgies-00.txt. I
>> > 	would like to get a sense of how people feel about this
>> > 	document at a (GROW) WG document.
>> 
>> This is a useful first pass at documenting some BGP system convergence
>> issues.  This seems to fit within the charter of the WG.
>> 
>> A random comment on the draft (presuming both of the authors are
>> on the WG mailing list):
>> 
>> A given BGP implementation should be deterministic at the routing level.
>> However, as this document notes, it isn't deterministic at the system
>> level.  The draft notes one form of temporal determinism and specifically
>> notes the "choose oldest route" step in the BGP tie breaking process.
>> However, it is possible to cause system level temporal determinism
>> stopping at the router-id stage.

	Jeff,

	Thanks for the comments.

	Dave
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