[GROW] OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-grow-simple-va-06.txt

Bert Wijnen <bwijnen@ripe.net> Tue, 05 June 2012 13:28 UTC

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Hi, I was asked OPS-DIR review for draft-ietf-grow-simple-va-06.txt.

At http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-simple-va/?include_text=1
I found revision 08, which is the one I reviewed yesterday.

Then today I found draft-ietf-grow-simple-va-09.txt, so quickly skimmed
through that as well. It fixed/removed the usage of example IP addresses
that were not allowed according to RFC3330. Also, Acronyms have been
expanded. So rev 9 is better than rev 8.

It seems to me that all the operational (deployment) aspects are described
in this document. At least all the ones I could see.

The document does not mention any "network management" specifics.
I guess that means there are no simple-va specific management aspects.

I am somewhat wondering if RFC2119 language is needed.
I find one case where MUST is used (top para on page 7).
I wonder if you indeed want to use MUST, if the following "should"
and "may" in that case better be SHOULD and MAY.
But all in all, I would think that for informational all lowercase
must/should/may would be fine. I am not hung up on it though.

Bert Wijnen
p.s. I am NOT on the grow mailing list.