[GROW] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-10: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: [GROW] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-10: (with COMMENT)
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Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I was going to call out a couple of my remarks, but the particularly important ones seem to already be covered by Alvaro's Discuss, which I consequently support. I also proposed some editorial suggestions in a github PR: https://github.com/TimEvens/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-loc-rib/pull/23 Section 1 Please expand SPF and CSPF on first use (https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt seems to only mark "OSPF" as well-known and not in need of expansion). For example, the received Adj-RIB-In will be different if add- paths is not enabled or if maximum number of equal paths are different from Loc-RIB to routes advertised. Where is "add-paths" defined? Section 1.1 monitored. As shown in Figure 3, the target router Loc-RIB is advertised via Adj-RIB-Out to the BMP router over a standard BGP Where is "the BMP router" defined/indicated? From context I assume it is "a router inserted into the BGP network for the (sole?) purpose of re-exporting via BMP a data stream". Perhaps it is simpler to avoid the new term and just say "to another BGP-speaking router" and "That router then forwards"? version information). In order to derive a Loc-RIB to a router, the router name or other system information is needed. The BMP (nit): is there a missing word here around "to a router"? ("entry"? s/to/for/?) I'm having a hard time parsing this sentence so I can't just make a suggestion in my editorial PR. Section 3 * Post-Policy Adj-RIB-Out: The result of applying outbound policy to an Adj-RIB-Out. This MUST be what is actually sent to the peer. My memory may be failing me, but I think I remember some discussion of this (MUST-level) requirement on Post-Policy Adj-RIB-Out some years ago, presumably in the context of a different document. Is this a preexisting requirement that we could refer to, or a new requirement being imposed here? Section 4.1 A new peer type is defined for Loc-RIB to distinguish that it represents Loc-RIB with or without RD and local instances. I think I'm confused by the line about "with or without RD and local instances". Is there a choice made by the sender? How would the recipient know which choice was made? Continuing on to read Section 5.1, it seems that the "peer distinguisher" field in the per-peer header can be used by the recipient to differentiate the cases, so perhaps it is more clear to say here "[...] represents Loc-RIB. Its representation can differentiate between instances with and without RD, and use a unique local value to indicate local instances."? Section 4.2 In section 4.2 of [RFC7854], the "locally sourced routes" comment under the L flag description is removed. If locally sourced routes We might want to mention this focused update to RFC 7854 in the introduction alongisde of the mention that Section 8.2 of RFC 7854 is completely replaced. are communicated using BMP, they MUST be conveyed using the Loc-RIB instance peer type. It seems like this might be a breaking change during incremental deployment, as a BMP receiver might lose a data stream it was otherwise receiving until it gets a software update. It seems like at a minimum this should get called out in the "other considerations" section, and maybe a more graceful transition procedure defined/allowed. Section 5.x We don't cover the Initiation/Termination messages from RFC 7854, but do seem to have at least brief mentions of the others. This is probably fine, but I just wanted to confirm that the processing of those messages is unchanged for the Loc-RIB case compared to the existing cases. Section 5.1 * Peer Address: Zero-filled. Remote peer address is not applicable. The V flag is not applicable with Loc-RIB Instance peer type considering addresses are zero-filed. Since we split the flags off into being per-peer-type, there no longer is a V flag defined and we may not need to have text about its irrelevance. Section 5.2.1 * Type = 3: VRF/Table Name. The Information field contains a UTF-8 string whose value MUST be equal to the value of the VRF or table It is hopefully implicit, but I'd suggest repeating the language from RFC 7854 that "[t]here is no requirement to terminate the string with a null (or any other particular) character" to avoid any doubt. (Likewise in Section 5.3.) Section 5.3 Peer down notification MUST use reason code 6. Following the reason Should we forward-reference Section 8.4 where we allocate that value? Section 7 The same considerations as in section 11 of [RFC7854] apply to this document. Implementations of this protocol SHOULD require to (side note) I think the current security considerations text is appropriate for this document, but noticed that RFC 7854 recommended IPsec in tunnel mode (vs. transport mode), which was a little surprising to me. That said, changing the recommendation now just for Loc-RIB would be disruptive for negligible benefit, so this is just a side note and no change is recommended. Section 8.2 I suspect that we want to create a new sub-registry for the peer-type-3 flags. This document defines a new flag (Section 4.2) and proposes that peer flags are specific to the peer type: I'd suggest not using the word "proposes" anymore; we're basically at the approval stage and it's more like a "going to happen" thing than a "proposal". Section 8.3 Is there actually an existing registry for PEER UP informational message TLV types? I don't see anything listed at https://www.iana.org/assignments/bmp-parameters/bmp-parameters.xhtml that matches up to that very well.
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