Re: [Hipsec] Noticed a 2012 patent application with respect to HIP and HIT handling -- has patent sillyness started for HIP?

The subject header of the message says: "has patent sillyness started for HIP"? 

--> If you only search for Pekka Nikander in the patent archive you will find lots of patents on HIP. 
So, the answer is "yes" and a long time ago already. 

Regarding your assessment of the patent you need to know that it does not matter whether you think a patent is valid or not the opinion of a judge matters in a patent dispute.

Ciao
Hannes

On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Miika Komu wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> althought the patent does not mention privacy, the patent appears to be about changing the HITs (not really about IP addresses). This further points out to the sketchy UPDATE portion of blind-based privacy:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-hip-privacy-protection-03#section-4.2
> 
> I should note that there's predating related prior art on changing HITs from 2004:
> 
> http://hipl.infrahip.net/papers/appmob.pdf
> 
> "Application Mobility with HIP": Teemu Koponen, Andrei Gurtov, Pekka Nikander
> 
> On 06/12/2012 11:49 PM, Darren Lissimore wrote:
>> Ran across this patent application while looking for a HIP reference,
>> 
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2012/0072513.html
>> 
>> pertains to new HIT delivery.
>> 
>> Hope this is not the start of patent sillyness for all things HIP related.
>> 
>> Anyone seen this can care to comment?
>> 
>> 
>> Darren
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