Re: [Hipsec] Proposed cipers for 5201-bis

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Sun, 18 April 2010 04:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Proposed cipers for 5201-bis
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On 04/16/2010 06:00 PM, Samu Varjonen wrote:
> 16.4.2010 17:52, Robert Moskowitz kirjoitti:
>> I have worked through a number of documents and have come up with the
>> following recommendations that will go into 5201-bis. I am posting them
>> separately here so others can think about them without having to wade
>> through the changes we are making to 5201.
>>
>> First and foremost we are adding EC support. EC MAY be used for 128bit
>> strenght crypto and MUST be used for 192 and 256bit crypto. This means
>> that I am dropping many of the larger DH mod sizes. Also with the advent
>> of fECC, I can drop some of the early ECC curves. fECC gives us the
>> tools to work with well researched stuff. For now we are adding the
>> larger SHA sizes and will await results of the NIST hash competition.
>>
>> Anyway, here we go...
>>
>> HOST_ID
>>
>> Algorithms Values
>>
>> RESERVED 0
>> DSA 3 [RFC2536] (RECOMMENDED)
>> RSA 5 [RFC3110] (REQUIRED)
>> ECDSA 6 [draft-?????.txt]
>>
>> Is there a doc for ECDSA in DNS records? Note that I dropped RSA/SHA1
>> for just RSA, as that is what we are really doing.
>>
>
> There was one draft 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsext-ecc-key-10) years ago 
> that has now expired. Have not found any newer one.

I will ask Donald about this. Thanks.

>
>>
>> DIFFIE_HELLMAN
>>
>> Group Value
>>
>> Reserved 0
>> DEPRECATED 1
>> DEPRECATED 2
>> DEPRECATED 3
>> 3072-bit MODP group 4 RFC3526
>> DEPRECATED 5
>> DEPRECATED 6
>> 256-bit random ECP group 7 RFC4753, draft-mcgrew-fundamental-ecc-02.txt
>> 384-bit random ECP group 8 RFC4753, draft-mcgrew-fundamental-ecc-02.txt
>> 521-bit random ECP group 9 RFC4753, draft-mcgrew-fundamental-ecc-02.txt
>>
>>
>> Note all that is getting deprecated. Speak up if you have reasons to NOT
>> drop what I did...
>>
>> HASH
>>
>> Hash Value
>>
>> Reserved 0
>> SHA-1 1
>> SHA-256 2
>> SHA-384 3
>> SHA-512 4
>>
>> Nothing special here.
>>
>>
>> HIP_TRANSFORM
>>
>> Suite ID Value
>>
>> RESERVED 0
>> AES-128-CBC with HMAC-SHA1 1 ([RFC3602], [RFC2404])
>> 3DES-CBC with HMAC-SHA1 2 ([RFC2451], [RFC2404])
>> DEPRECATED 3
>> DEPRECATED 4
>> NULL-ENCRYPT with HMAC-SHA1 5 ([RFC2410], [RFC2404])
>> DEPRECATED 6
>> NULL-ENCRYPT with HMAC-SHA2 7 ([RFC2410], [RFC4868])
>> AES-128-CBC with HMAC-SHA2 8 ([RFC3602], [RFC4868])
>> AES-256-CBC with HMAC-SHA2 9 ([RFC3602], [RFC4868])
>> AES-CCM-8 9 [RFC4309]
>> AES-CCM-16 10 [RFC4309]
>> AES-GCM with a 8 octet ICV 11 [RFC4106]
>> AES-GCM with a 16 octet ICV 12 [RFC4106]
>>
>> Again, note what is being deprecated. I believe I am adding only that
>> which is of value.
>>
>>
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