Re: [Hipsec] Diet ESP and HIP
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From: Stu Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>
To: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>, HIP <hipsec@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Hipsec] Diet ESP and HIP
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Diet ESP and HIP
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Although I have long been intrigues by IKE and MobIKE, what I don't know about them would fill volumes. Any of you better-informed folk willing to essay this? -----Original Message----- From: Hipsec <hipsec-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 2:30 PM To: HIP <hipsec@ietf.org> Subject: [Hipsec] Diet ESP and HIP Please note that in ipsecme there is work to apply SCHC to EXP: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp/ This is a 32 byte savings. The additional interesting thing impacting HIP is that addition to IKEv2 to negotiate Diet-ESP: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mglt-ipsecme-ikev2-diet-esp-extension/ Anyone interested in taking on defining the HIP payload to perform an equivalent operation? I am swamped with other items, and would love it if someone else steps up to the plate. Bob _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec
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