Re: [Hipsec] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-dex-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
CC: "draft-ietf-hip-dex@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-hip-dex@ietf.org>, "hip-chairs@ietf.org" <hip-chairs@ietf.org>, "gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com" <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>, "hipsec@ietf.org" <hipsec@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Hipsec] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-dex-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-dex-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Lars,

Thank you for your review.

The hip-dex document was already in IESG evaluation (and had even a ballot, which was deferred) when I became the responsible AD, so, I have no more historical context than you (and to be honest, I did not check the charter).

In a separate email thread, I will check with chairs, previous ADs, and authors. Unsure whether I will get a reply before our telechat.

The cluster C386 is blocked by this document and my fall-back plan is to remove completely the appendix of draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis to remove the dependency.

Let's discuss later today

-éric

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Subject: [Hipsec] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-dex-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

    Lars Eggert has entered the following ballot position for
    draft-ietf-hip-dex-24: Discuss

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    DISCUSS:
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    I realize I'm missing a lot of history and context here. So apologies
    if this was discussed in the past. But this document seems to be completely
    outside of the current HIP charter. Why has the WG worked on this, and why
    should this be published? I'll note that the only IETF document referencing
    draft-ietf-hip-dex is draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423, and the reference is an appendix
    that basically summarizes -dex and is not normative. So not publishing this
    document will not block any other work.


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    COMMENT:
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    All comments below are very minor change suggestions that you may choose to
    incorporate in some way (or ignore), as you see fit. There is no need to let me
    know what you did with these suggestions.

    Section 5.2.6, paragraph 4, nit:
    -    the Responder in I2 which echos it back to the Initiator in R2.
    +    the Responder in I2 which echoes it back to the Initiator in R2.
    +                                  +



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