Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt

Miika Komu <miika.komu@ericsson.com> Fri, 25 November 2016 07:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt
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Hi Robert,

 

yes, mobility support is specified in the draft.

 

From: Robert Moskowitz [mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:33 AM
To: Miika Komu <miika.komu@ericsson.com>; hipsec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt

 

Miika,

Does this draft cover the use case where the mobile HIP device moves from
one NATed network to another.  Consider you are in Starbucks and move next
door to Dunkin Donuts.

Your device did this augmented BEX exchange in Starbucks.  You walk into DD
and your interface decides the signal from SB is too weak, but it has the
saved SSID for DD and switches (Gee I wonder if it could be the same 1918
address! oh boy.).  Would this work as a mobility update or a new BEX? 

On 11/24/2016 05:37 AM, Miika Komu wrote:

Hi, 

I read the latest version of the ICE specs. Based on this, I included more
details on ICE processing to the HIP NAT traversal draft. A quick summary of
the changes: 

* Introduced more details from ice-bis draft 
  * New terminology 
  * Aligned connectivity check procedure to match with ICE (3-way check is
now 4-way) 
  * Ta minimum value is now 5 ms (according to ICE bis) 
  * 4.9 Handoff: first update HIP relay to in order learn new server
reflexive locators 
  * New sections: 
     * 4.6.3.  Rules for Concluding Connectivity Checks 
     * 6.6.  Amplification attacks (new section) 
     * 6.7.  Attacks against Connectivity Checks and Candidate Gathering 
     * Appendix C.  Differences to ICE 
     * Appendix D.  Differences to Base Exchange and UPDATE procedures 
  * 7. IANA Considerations: added UNSAF considerations (references ICE) 
* updated references (some drafts are now RFCs) 

Feedback is welcome! For people already familiar with HIP, I'd recommend
reading "the diff to normal HIP" in section
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14#appendix-
D

On 11/24/2016 10:32 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org
<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>  wrote: 




A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories. 
This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol of the IETF. 

        Title           : Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity
Protocol 
        Authors         : Ari Keranen 
                          Jan Melén 
                          Miika Komu 
    Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt 
    Pages           : 51 
    Date            : 2016-11-24 

Abstract: 
   This document specifies a new Network Address Translator (NAT) 
   traversal mode for the Host Identity Protocol (HIP).  The new mode is 
   based on the Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) methodology 
   and UDP encapsulation of data and signaling traffic.  The main 
   difference from the previously specified modes is the use of HIP 
   messages for all NAT traversal procedures. 


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/ 

There's also a htmlized version available at: 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14 

A diff from the previous version is available at: 
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14 


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