Re: [Hipsec] WGLC: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-15

Jeff Ahrenholz <j.ahrenholz@temperednetworks.com> Wed, 15 March 2017 14:37 UTC

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From: Jeff Ahrenholz <j.ahrenholz@temperednetworks.com>
To: Miika Komu <miika.komu@ericsson.com>, Tom Henderson <tomhend@u.washington.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] WGLC: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-15
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>> I might suggest to recommend NOTIFY (and define the keepalive) and state
>> that other messages including ICMPv6 or UPDATE may be substituted.  If
>> there is a need for bi-directional connectivity checking, recommend to use
>> UPDATE;  if there are specific known scenarios where an ICMPv6 is
>> recommended instead, state those scenarios.
>    
> Tom, this sounds fine to me. Normal UPDATEs over UDP should be fine, but I
> think we shouldn't device a new UPDATE mechanism tied to controlled role
> (sorry for thinking aloud :)
>    
> Jeff, is this ok for you?

Yes, this sounds good.

thanks,
-Jeff